Esoteric Question Of The Day: Does This LP Have RVG?
Duonri reminded me that I didn’t include this record from Nautiluso in the list: Jackie McLean, The New Tradition, Ad Lib 6601. This was listed in M- condition and wound up selling for $4,036, the highest price we’ve ever recorded for a jazz record on the Jazz Collector Price Guide. So I went back to the original listing in order to record it, and I noticed something I hadn’t noticed before: The seller says this one has the RVG in the deadwax? The question I ask: Is this possible — does an original pressing of The New Tradition have the RVG in the deadwax, or did he just make that up? I would have looked in my own collection for the answer but, unfortunately, I sold my copy of The New Tradition for a mere $400 nearly 20 years ago. Many of you may have heard this story before, but I sold a bunch of my rarest records in one shot so I could buy a boat. Six months later
the boat sank. The records, I’m sure, are alive and well and sitting on some happy collectors’ shelves in Japan.
One more thing I forgot to mention: This record received 866 views — and that was before it sold. That is quite a large number, but this is quite a rare record. To find one in this condition would seem too good to be true, and perhaps it was.
Al,
Ad Lib 6601 Jackie Mclean – got even higher prices such as on eBay seller – euclidrecords auction on 2006-03-12 for $5016.
Also RVG is etched on dead wax because Rudy Van Gelder was record engineer for this record.
I checked: RvG hand etched either side.
Note: it is capital R small v and capital G.
Dutchmen write the prefix “van” always in small characters. And a Dutch name it is. In Rudy’s hand etching in general the “v” is notably smaller.
Thanks, Rudolf. Haven’t seen you weigh in on Nautiluso. What do you think?
I am on the same line as Michel. A variant could be that he made pictures of his own records and used them to make money, but keeping his collection safe at Copacabana. But Michel noted different photo origins. When you hinted the first time at this “collection”, I was surprised by the fact that a German would sell out of Brazil, had done only classical albums before and came out of the blue with a fantabulous jazz collection. Of course the German element was supposed to be confidence building (“Germans are serious”, and that sort of thing).
But since I am a seller, I have only followed the matter from a distance. 2 of my regular customers are victims of the scheme. I advised them to consult “jazzcollector”.
One wonders what a 100% positive feedback is worth when this can happen. But, what can EBay do against this sort of banditism, not much I would say.
Anyway, the whole community is hurt, directly or indirectly.
Btw, there is an other Ad-Lib Jackie McLean in NM condition at EBay.