Vinyl For the Jazz Collector Price Guide

Sonny Rollins Jazz VinylAnd here’s more jazz vinyl from the newly updated (we hope) Jazz Collector Price Guide.

Not sure how we missed this one, but, to be fair, there’s been quite a large number of copies of this record on eBay lately, particularly one considered to be quite rare: Hank Mobley, Blue Note 1568. This one had the West 63rd Street address on both labels, but not the New York 23. So it is considered rare but less rare, original but less original. This one was probably VG+ for both the record and the cover. It sold for $2,456.

Sonny Rollins Plus Four, Prestige 7038. This looked to be an original New York pressing with the original cover design, although there was no mention of the frame, or kakubishi cover. This one was in VG++ condition for both the record and the cover and it sold for $332. Here’s another Rollins from the same seller: Sonny Rollins, Moving Out, Prestige 7058. This was also an original New York pressing. The record was M- and the cover was just VG. This one sold for $472.

You don’t see this one too often, at least not with the red vinyl:

Marty Paich Quartet With Art Pepper, Tampa 28. This was an original pressing with the red vinyl. The record and cover were in VG+ condition. It sold for $635.

Hank Mobley, Mobley’s Message, Prestige 7061. This was an original pressing listed in M- condition for the record and VG+ for the cover. It sold for $689.

 

 

 

 

19 comments

  • Let’s try to be a little provocative. I don’t understand the hysteria regarding this BLP 1568. Okay, its MObley, but Hank has recorded many other sessions – and some far better thant this one. Okay, its Blue Note, but i doubt it is the rarest Blue Note album, with an average one per month being auctioned on ebay between 1/2103 and 1/2014. I doubt only 300 of this one were made. I think there are many rarer Blue Note. Moreover It has been said many times that the NY23 / W 63 rd first or second issue is also a non sense. So ?

  • For my money I’d much prefer Soul Station.Which sells on the higher end, but nowhere near the ridiculousness this album generates.

  • Andy – at least the Blue Train seller graded it accurately!

  • hello all….i just inherited my 80yr old fathers jazz collection. He is retired military so you can imagine how pristine he kept his collection. All the covers look like they were just made. He gave me over 600 records that he collected from 50s-late 70’s…only a few in the 80s. I’m trying to get money together for grad school. Its entirely to many records to make a list. If any of you are looking for a rare record i’m sure i have it…in some cases i might have 2. Just drop me a line so we can discuss. Thank you.
    IamDjFinesse@gmail.com

  • I used to put records in that condition into the dollar bin at the record store I worked at. People were stoked to buy them just for the cover. Got rid of unplayable albums that way.

  • 1568 appears so often that it casts some doubt on the argument made in the last thread: that it is it’s rarity that makes it so much more valuable than, e.g., 1507/8 (Blakey with Mobley/Dorham) or 1562 (Horace with Mobley)

  • Clifford – right on. I have bought more than a few beaters out of the dollar bins for a cover to match with a decent, but coverless, LP. But bidding it up on eBay . . . not so much.

  • Two years ago I sold a 1568 (no NY23) to a Japanese dealer. At the time, he told me that there was a Japanese reissue program about to start duplicating the original issues (including 1568) in every detail. There would be no telltale markings. He said it was not for export but who knows what unscrupulous dealers may have gotten hold of one or two copies. They would have NY 23 on the proper side. I took two things away from our conversation. 1- He was not bothered at all with the lack of NY23 on the label. 2- As of that time, I could never be sure if a near mint NY23 label was an original.

  • This is the reissue series the Japanese dealer was talking about:
    http://www.discogs.com/Hank-Mobley-Hank-Mobley/release/3820221
    FYI the US Classic Records pressing also has deep groove labels with NY23 on Side 2.

  • Those japanese reissues are stunning. i bought one (4140) just to see how accurate they are. And they are. BUt the color of the inside cardboard is different , and there is no playstylite “ear”. The sound is very fine, but not to be compared with original – imo. Not shure it can be confused with a the real deal, anyway, because it looks so new. If you already have a fine original record without a decent cover, you can also use it as a NM cover.

  • I’m surprised there’s no ear. My guy specifically mentioned that there would be an ear (p) stamp. Aaron – doesn’t Classic have a second address or rights statement boldly printed on the back cover?

  • They can’t duplicate the smell.

  • That Japanese reissue program is sourced from digital transfers RVG made.

  • Bill,
    Yes, the Classic has an additional line under the original address on the back cover, thankfully making them easy to identify! The Music Matters 45rpm pressings, while in no way could be mistaken for originals, have an ear in the deadwax.

  • Fredrik : how true ! The smell of those old cardboard covers used to fill the record shops at the glorious days.

  • This I find very hard to believe. Back I the day when I had my store in Chicago, records in this shape would go in my bargain bins, not higher than $3.99

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/310893924464?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

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