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		<title>Mingus, Big Maybelle and Other Points of Interest</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2004 17:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We all appreciate knowledgeable dealers who understand what they’re selling and can provide us with insight about the collectibles market. Here’s an example: I was recently looking through eBay and saw a Charles Mingus record I had never seen before. The title is “Music Written For Monterey, 1965. Not Heard &#8230; Played In Its Entirety [...]]]></description>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We all appreciate knowledgeable dealers who understand what they’re selling and can provide us with insight about the collectibles market. Here’s an example: I was recently looking through eBay and saw a <strong>Charles Mingus</strong><span> record I had never seen before. The title is </span><strong>“Music Written For Monterey, 1965. Not Heard &#8230; Played In Its Entirety at UCLA,&#8221; East Coasting 12.001.</strong></p>
<p> The dealer offering this LP was Stereojacks, which I happen to know through my many travels to Boston.<span>  </span>Stereojacks is based in Cambridge and is one of the more reputable and knowledgeable dealers in the country. This is their explanation of the record:<span id="more-259"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> “In 1966 Charles Mingus offered four privately released LPs on his Charles Mingus label through mail order. Three of them were subsequently re-released nationally by Fantasy, but this one never was. Reportedly only a few hundred of the UCLA album were sold. In the early 1980&#8242;s, East Coasting&#8217;s Fred Cohen collaborated with the Mingus estate to make this album available once again, albeit very briefly. In addition to reproducing the original cover art (and a gatefold cover not on the original), a 7&#8243; EP of &#8220;They Trepass the Land of the Sacred Sioux,&#8221; recorded at Monterey 9/18/65, and never released elsewhere, was included. The performance features Mingus rehearsing the ensemble and performing the pieces &#8220;Meditations On Inner Peace,&#8221; &#8220;Once Upon a Time There Was a Holding Corporation Called Old America,&#8221; &#8220;Ode To Bird and Dizzy,&#8221; &#8220;They Trespass the Land of the Sacred Sioux,&#8221; &#8220;The Arts of Tatum and Freddie Webster,&#8221; &#8220;Don&#8217;t Be Afraid The Clown&#8217;s Afraid Too,&#8221; and &#8220;Don&#8217;t Let It Happen Here.&#8221; The band includes Lonnie Hillyer, Hobart Dotson, Jimmy Owens (trumpets), Howard Johnson (tuba), Julius Watkins (French horn), Charles McPherson (alto sax), Charles Mingus (bass &amp; piano), Dannie Richmond (drums). This is a fascinating and essential document of the true original that was Charles Mingus.”</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The record sold for a price of $92. Here’s the original listing and our thanks to Stereojacks for the insight.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> In the same spirit, we were listing some records yesterday and ran into gaps in our knowledge. One was a simple fix. The record was <strong>Billie Holiday, Stay With Me, Verve 8302.</strong><span> As sometimes happens with the Verves, the musicians were not listed. We consulted with </span><strong>The Jazz Discography by Tom Lord</strong><span> for the answer. Accompanying Billie on this date are Charlie Shavers, Tony Scott, Budd Johnson, Billy Taylor, Billy Bauer, Leonard Gaskin and Cozy Cole. Here’s the listing.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> The other record that tested our knowledge was called <strong>The Blues, Mamie Webster Sings W.C. Handy, Cub 8002.</strong><span><span>  </span>Not only had we never heard of Mamie Webster, we’d never even seen a record on the Cub label. We did a few searches on the Internet for answers.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> Mamie Webster, it turns out, was a pseudonym for the blues singer Big Maybelle. Big Maybelle’s real name was Mabel Louise Smith, so how she because Mamie Webster is anybody’s guess. But, apparently, it’s a name she used more than once. The Cub label, from what we can tell, was a subsidiary label to MGM. We could only find a list of nine LPs, plus 78s and 45s, mostly early rock and R&amp;B. We tried to find other copies of the record on eBay, but there weren’t any. We were able to locate one copy on GEMM, which was being offered for $150. We put a start price of $30 on our copy, with no reserve. Here it is if you want to see what a Cub record looks like.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> That’s it for today. See you tomorrow with a newsletter and our weekly give-away. &#8212; Al</p>
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