Ella and Louis as Rare Jazz Vinyl

Well, this is one of my all-time favorite records, but when did it become a high-priced commodity: Ella and Louis, Verve 4003. This is an original pressing in M- condition. I don’t often find myself watching copies of this on eBay, because it rarely gets to the $50 threshold. This one, however, has a bunch of bidders and is already in the $150 range with a few hours to go. Any guesses as to the reason for the high price on this one?

Now for this one I can understand a high price: Lou Donaldson Sextet Volume 2, Blue Note 5055. This is an original 10-inch pressing that seems to be in about VG+ condition for the vinyl and VG++ for the cover. There are nearly four days to go and the price is in the $225 range. By the way, I think I’ve convinced the lovely Mrs. JC to allocate four solid shelves of space in our new New York apartment for 10-inch LPs, which will probably cover 250-plus records. Not my full 10-inch collection, but more than enough to sustain me. And perhaps I will get back to eBay and sell some of the others. Still looking for a permanent home for my 78s, which is a bit more complicated because there are more of them and because they include both individual records and albums as well. I’ll keep you posted.

 

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12 comments

  • Not sure. I guess the Orange label earlier? The copy I have is exactly the same label style and cover MGV-4003, but deepgroove black label.

  • That Ella & Louis record is a tough one to find in great condition, VG copies abound. I found a French Barclay copy of this that was pressed on nice heavy vinyl (heavier than the Verve) from the original US Verve stampers that sounds great. One unusual thing is that the cover photo used is sequentially right before or after the one on the Verve because Ella & Louis are in slightly different positions.

  • Ella & Louis: I think it is because of the original red-orange/yellow label. I have a Verve Inc. label (pre-Verve MGM), but it is black/silver.

  • That sounds the same as mine. I had been wondering how to date the Verve labels. Around when did the black MGM label start? Thanks.

  • I’ve been working on a Verve labelography for my site and it has proven to be a difficult task until the MGM era as there are many variants. The orange label of Ella & Louis (with machine stamped matrix info.) has much better sound than the later black label versions.

  • Ok. On wikipedia it says Verve sold to MGM in 1961, so many of the verve LP’s I have were MGM originally anyway. What’s your site Aaron?

  • Al, I am very pleased that you have a home for you 10″ jazz records. I have about 100 of them, and they are very special in terms of the evolution of jazz, particularly (to me) the many Pacific Jazz ones I have. Glad you kept them!

  • Tim, if you click my name it will take you to my site 33rev

  • great–will check it out

  • AL — Part of the unusual eBay interest in “Ella & Louis” may have been due to the SiriusXM-Real Jazz re-broadcast(from 2008?) that week of Wynton Marsalis’s “Basic Jazz Library”, wherein he named it among his dozen-plus recommendations.

  • HIgh bidders have funky bidding history. Maybe that’s why it went so high. “I’m a private bidder and I only want 1 lp this month … an Ella and Louis record!” Seems funky! And the other bidder was a 60% “I’m a bidder of jazz lps and I only want 2-3 lps this month … and one of them’s an Ella and Louis record!” Funky alright.

  • Hi there. I own a copy of that record with the black label printed in 1958. I would like to know the value of that vinyl. Thank you

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