Comments on: A 10-Inch Potpourri

By: ILYA

ILYA — Mon, 08 Apr 2019 19:25:17 +0000

Speaking about quality control, I recently encountered an unplayed yellow label copy of MJQ’s 10″ Prestige PRLP 170 that had such severe pressing bubbles that it made me wonder how it had slipped through the packaging/QC control at all…

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Sat, 06 Apr 2019 06:37:28 +0000

Shaft: indeed, it is amazing to witness the care with which European record firms, esp. the English, packaged their vinyl, starting way back to the 10″ period. Sturdy inners, lined with polyester film for the EMI and Decca groups. Philips and Vogue all had paper inners, the latter mostly onion skin paper. I don’t know of any European label producing 10″ albums without inners.

By: mark

mark — Sat, 06 Apr 2019 02:11:11 +0000

i found the soulsisters at goodwill a few years ago hadn,t heard of it before seeing the players was pleasantly suprised at the quality of the music

By: Shaft

Shaft — Fri, 05 Apr 2019 13:40:31 +0000

Rudolf, I agree and yes my comments concerning LP’s above was about 12″-inchers.

I think we have most things pinned down now about the 10″. Maybe it should be mentioned that some 10″ LPS in Europe had special plastic inner bags that were a part of the sleeve packaging. Like fold-out and glued together. Common with classical editions.

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Fri, 05 Apr 2019 11:01:27 +0000

Shaft, the discussion was on 10″ albums, where, to the best of my knowledge, no baggy seals, nor sealed inners, à la Columbia.
Of course, Contemporary was the champion of 12″ albums protected by a loose baggy. Savoy should be mentioned too.

By: Shaft

Shaft — Fri, 05 Apr 2019 08:51:12 +0000

John, no original baggies found here. I have some 50’s LP’s with loose outer baggies. An Errol garner comes to mind. Columbia made som inner perforated inner baggies as well. Al, here at jazzcollector mentioned in one of his buying collection stories that one collectiona had quite a few of theese outer baggies. For example Art Pepper Meets the Rhythm section on Contemporary. As a side note I enherited this same title but on Stereo Records (original stereo pressing from 1958) and he claimed it never had an inner bag of any kind. He was always super careful with his LPs (as I am).

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Fri, 05 Apr 2019 08:22:18 +0000

No, I haven’t.
For me the sessions made especially for the 10″ format are the most valuable in my collection. Most of them have been re issued in 12″ format, but not all. Still I prefer the original artefact.
Concerning the 10″ albums which got lost in the transition from 10 to 12″, I made a detailed study for London Jazz Collector. Many 10″ Blue Notes got lost. For Pacific Jazz the most striking example is # 16, the Bob Brookmeyer qrt. Just disappeared, never to be seen again on P.J. Though leased to Crown early sixties.

By: John

John — Fri, 05 Apr 2019 05:57:38 +0000

Rudolf and Shaft, Thank you for the fascinating insights gleaned from your collections. Have you ever seen any of these 50s 10 inch LPs sealed in a baggy?

By: Shaft

Shaft — Thu, 04 Apr 2019 09:24:16 +0000

Rudolf, that is very interesting! My copy is the yellow/black fireworks label. You could be absolutely right.
I bought some fantastic LP’s that had been bought and uncirculated and very well taken care of by an elderly gentleman in his collection. Everything else had to my knowledge original inners and just like almost from the store. These onion skins are very fragile indeed and I guess even more so the 10″ ones since the jackets are kind of tight.

The Blue Note 10″ I got had no original inners.

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Tue, 02 Apr 2019 08:33:14 +0000

As a matter of fact, I have had a new album of Bennie Green in the 210 -series (214 ?),which had a neat onion skin inner. The record had the new yellow black label design. Ditto for a second pressing of Miles # 200.
Can we assume there is a link between the new inners and the new yellow black label ?
Re the Granz labels, Ï am pretty sure (Ï have got to be cautious) no inners there. Ditto for CR AND P.J.
Bethlehem had white paper inners.