Comments on: A Visit to the Jazz Record Center

By: Katharsis

Katharsis — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 21:45:45 +0000

Marmarosa, I wrote something about Jazzland above.

By: Mike

Mike — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 20:32:55 +0000

Sorry Maramarosa,
I like to the wrong thread. This is what we came up with for Prestige.
100-214(10-inch)
100-117(sketchy about 117)
All should be DG, Blue Label, and the 754 10th Avenue New York NY address. Flat Edge
118-214
All should be DG, Blue Label, and the 446 W. 50TH ST. New York NY address. Flat Edge
161 DG, Red and Silver Label, and the 446 W. 50TH ST. New York NY address. Flat Edge
162-168
All should be DG, Blue Label, and the 446 W. 50TH ST. New York NY address. Flat Edge
169-197
All should be DG, Red and Silver Label, and the 446 W. 50TH ST. New York NY address. Flat Edge
198-214
All should be DG, Yellow and Black Label, and the 446 W. 50TH ST. New York NY address. Flat Edge

7000-7057, 7060, 7061, 7063
DG, Yellow and Black Fireworks Label, No Spine Writing, and the 446 W. 50TH ST. New York NY address.

7058-7059, 7062
DG, Yellow and Black Fireworks Label, Spine Label, and the 446 W. 50TH ST. New York NY address.

7064-7141
DG, Yellow and Black Fireworks Label, Spine Label, and the 446 W. 50TH ST. New York NY address.

7142-7258
All should be DG, Yellow and Black Fireworks Label, Label on Spine, and the 203 South Washington Ave., Bergenfield, N.J

7259 – 7320
Not DG, Yellow and Black Fireworks Label, and the 203 South Washington Ave., Bergenfield, N.J

7321 – ??
Not DG, Blue Trident Label, and the 203 South Washington Ave., Bergenfield, N.J

But there is more. There are other variations that are not covered, I just can’t document them do to lack of familiarity. Michel at one point volunteered to do one for Riverside. I know I’d love to see it.

By: Marmarosa

Marmarosa — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 20:07:13 +0000

Thank’s Mike.

I’ve watched you link, but I find it focused on Blue Note records.
Any clue about Riverside, Prestige, Jazzland and New Jazz?

By: Jason

Jason — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 16:23:41 +0000

Mike – well put!

And $5 can still buy a lot. I picked up mint copies of “Go” on VJ by Paul Chambers and “Apperception” on Chancellor by Jimmy Wisner at a record show of all places for $5 each. Either the dealer didn’t know what he had, or didn’t care.

By: Katharsis

Katharsis — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 10:48:19 +0000

Al, I’m late, but I still wish you the best for a new year in your life.
Marmarosa: I’m not sure, if there’s something about Jazzland.
It’s easy for that label. First Mono-pressings have an orange label with a deep groove, Stereo-pressings have a black label with DG. At the bottom of the label you can read “Bill Grauer Productions New York”. After that, there were the same label constellations, but without a deep groove. And after that you may see the Orpheum-pressings, mostly on maroon labels. For some releases, there are OJC and french Carrere-pressings existing.

By: Mike

Mike — Sun, 06 Feb 2011 16:05:43 +0000

Marmosa, check out this thread we made here. . You have too read through it fairly well. It contains information that we collectively compiled.

By: Al

Al — Sun, 06 Feb 2011 12:18:48 +0000

To Bill — what store did you own? If you’re interested in writing a guest column about your experience with the store, please do.

By: Marmarosa

Marmarosa — Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:23:36 +0000

Dear friends,

If JRC it’s heaven for people who lives in Usa, who has opportunities to visit phisical records shops, imagine the experience for somebody like me who lives in Spain……
I would like to ask for your help. Where can I find a guide to discover the original pressings of Prestige, Jazzland, New Jazz, Riverside…….?

Best Regards.

By: ceedee

ceedee — Sun, 06 Feb 2011 04:35:18 +0000

Very well stated,Mike. It’s good to remember the services that JRC provides(and Fred in particular)-discographical info at arm’s reach,jazz books(rare,foreign,newly released),art collectibles,framed photos from time to time,htf posters -and,yes-inexpensive compact discs from all over the world…that “kid in a candy store” vibe I get whenever I go there is part-memory(my own)of long-gone musicians,but mostly due to the work Fred has put in over the years. His love of jazz has inspired a renowned business that can bring a smile to the face of the most jaded collector(me..us?). And as any experienced “crate-digger” knows-you never can tell what might turn up in that next stack. Or,as we put it-“Uh…you mind if I look through that pile if you’re done with it?” (LOL)

By: Mike

Mike — Sun, 06 Feb 2011 00:47:59 +0000

I don’t know if this is Fred’s reason or not, but $10 records sell decently. And you probably aren’t paying a ton for them. So if you buy a collection of maybe a 3000 records, with %10 or so collectible and the rest being in the $5-$15 dollar range you need a place to sell those. I don’t go to Jazz Record Center looking for premium records, I go looking for things that I haven’t seen before and would not have thought to look for. That’s what I love about JRC, Euclid in New Orleans, Amoeba, etc. But I can empathise with Al, and everyone else who have gigantic collections and have been collecting since the 60s. They aren’t looking for quantity, but quality. Most days I’m not either, but I don’t live in a town with a record store of substance and have to drive an hour to get to New Orleans where there are a few(but nothing like JRC for Jazz). I prefer top tier collectibles and due to ebay have plenty of access, it’s the ability to shop for something that I never would have searched for on ebay that I like. If I could do it on a whim it would get old, but I can’t so I enjoy visiting big cities with nice record stores. And JRC is probably my favorite. Plus I enjoy talking to people like Fred, although this site and the people here keep me happy in that regard nowadays. I think there is still a place for second hand music stores, it’s just high volume long time collectors will show little interest. That’s what ebay and the internet is for. I’m with Michel in that it has made the market free and, to borrow what has become a cliche, the world flatter.