Comments on: And Now For Some Rare Vinyl on eBay

By: Clifford Allen

Clifford Allen — Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:14:44 +0000

GSP, if it’s a required opt-in, could push people towards Discogs. Once I find a seller on Discogs I really like, I tend to use them a lot – and get the resultant discounts and early-bird hookups. Of course there isn’t really much bidding going on, though offers are made.

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. . . And The Prices Keep Going Up | jazzcollector.com — Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:16:27 +0000

[…] about VG+ because a previous owner had stamped his name and address on both the front and the back. When I first wrote about the record, there were several hours left in the auction and the bidding was in the $265 range and I guessed […]

By: Michel

Michel — Sun, 27 Sep 2015 10:42:41 +0000

As a frequent Ebay buyer, (especially electric guitar parts and records), i no longer buy or bid from any seller who use Ebay GSP. Customs duties (and sometimes shipping costs) are probihitives from the US.

By: terryfromflorida

terryfromflorida — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 20:46:54 +0000

The maroon and white New Jazz 10″ labels are sweet (I have the Raney 1101). The close up photos of the on these two revealed edge, corner and ring wear which in my book does not equal NM. Musically these are great lp’s.

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 17:50:11 +0000

I don’t doubt they sound great; but $455 is ridiculous for a reissue. But I’m sure you didn’t pay that much for your copy 😉

By: woody

woody — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 16:32:03 +0000

I have the same copy of “Whistle Stop”, everything about it looks like an original first pressing but no “P” or DG. Over the years I’ve gotten quite of few of the “fake” 63rd St pressings, they were much cheaper than the originals and with the Van Gelder stamp they sound amazing. My impression was that these were released when or before Blue Note was sold to Liberty Records. The records had to be repressed but all the covers and labels were original and sitting on shelves in the warehouse. The covers are from the original laminated copies! To do an over-run after setting up the presses costs almost nothing, which is why they still had Lexington and 63rd St labels and slicks. The only other thing they all shared was none of them had the original inner sleeve, besides the lack of a DG and “P” in the vinyl.

By: Mark

Mark — Sat, 26 Sep 2015 00:11:57 +0000

Mike – I’m sure that “Whistle Stop” was a Liberty era pressing with 47 w 63rd labels. I used to have a copy of “The Connection” that was similiar…47 w 63rd labels and RVG stamp but no ear. Somebody got a very expensive reissue! I personally do not like ebay sellers who are coy/tricky with regards to revealing all info pertaining to the pressing. They should clearly state whether there is a plastylite mark or not.

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 20:22:28 +0000

Mark/Mike J (NZ): that is the lesson I learnt too, avoid sellers who adhered to the GSP. A stupid rip-off. It cannot work properly. Are they supposed to send money to the tax authorities in the country of destination? Come on, impossible for practical and legal reasons.

By: Mike J (NZ)

Mike J (NZ) — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 20:03:24 +0000

Hey Mark, i have a comment that is still awaiting moderation which included a link to that Atomic auction. Whistle Stop went for US$455.00 in the end. All that was mentioned in the description was that it had the RVG stamp. As you say, there was no mention of “P” or ear, no deep groove on either side, which i’m pretty sure this one is supposed to have.

By: Mike J (NZ)

Mike J (NZ) — Fri, 25 Sep 2015 19:59:50 +0000

Hi Rudolf, yes i have had first hand experience of the dreaded GSP. I can only describe the GSP as a legal scam.
I made a complaint to Ebay about this, asking why a buyer should effectively pay two lots of shipping charges.

They happily explained away the GSP concept, but when I asked why I’ve never been charged all these customs charges on the many records that i’ve been purchased before, which incidentally should be charges that customs of the destination country should be charging anyway, they wouldn’t answer my simple question.

I had bought a copy of Mobley’s Message, and in the end, I had to negotiate with the seller to send it USPS, but in order to do so, he had to relist it, which all worked out in the end fortunately for me.
Simple answer as Mark above states, don’t bid in auctions that are going to ship via the GSP.

Did you see the Global Shipping Program charge and the shipping charge on the Waltz For Debby auction?
$426.32 + $48.50 = US$474.82!! I wonder if the buyer knows they have to pay this on top of the auction price. What a rip off!