Comments on: Big Prices, A Missing Record & a Cutout Hole

By: alwaysanalog

alwaysanalog — Fri, 11 Apr 2014 19:59:52 +0000

My luck with purple New Jazz labels is rotten. Even the earliest wider DG labels have surface noise that is unacceptable for me.

By: JOK

JOK — Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:35:54 +0000

Mike, I have one of those. Mine has a “Prestige” label on the record itself, and I believe the first edition “Out There” has the “New Jazz” label on the record. I looked it up once (and I now cannot find the source) and I think what I read mentioned this particular issue came out in 1962.

And, it does sound very nice.

By: Mike

Mike — Fri, 11 Apr 2014 14:08:16 +0000

My best playing New Jazz record is a copy of Eric Dolphy out there with no deep groove. I do think its a later press though.

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Fri, 11 Apr 2014 09:03:02 +0000

Michel is right: a broad DG is a sign of unspoiled vinyl. Narrow, or absence of, DG may be an indicator of recycled vinyl. A subjective criterium is the very colour of the label. I cannot describe it, but I see in the shade of violet whether a first or second pressing.

By: Michel

Michel — Fri, 11 Apr 2014 08:38:51 +0000

Horsti62; From my experience, the New Jazz pressed with a large Deep Groove (the earlier titles) have no backing noise problem. The second press / or first with a narrower DG often have background noise. The later press (or repress) without DG have noise most of the time.

Earl : i found all Bob Jukic’s listing ambiguous but somewhat smart. This Blue Train is suprising because it is completely false, but not smart.

By: Horsti62

Horsti62 — Fri, 11 Apr 2014 05:40:18 +0000

Cracklin NJ 8286 : What about the never ending problem of NJ´s background noice according to the bad vinyl qualities Bob Weinstock used for production. I think he was the greatest nicle nurser ! I never buy a NJ without statement about noice…

By: Earl

Earl — Fri, 11 Apr 2014 00:07:22 +0000

BTW, did you all see the e-mail from LondonJazzCollector, giving much deserved credit to this site “for the valuable work they do and excellent forum they provide”

Hear hear!!

By: Earl

Earl — Fri, 11 Apr 2014 00:03:25 +0000

While the DG debate may be relevant (I personally think it is not – DG on a 1577 is definitely an indicator of originality, while being less so on later releases), unquestionably the “r” and inc seal the deal as indicating a later pressing – Personally, I am very surprised at this listing – I’ve always thought that Djukic hypes his listings unmercifully and goes way overboard as such, I had not heretofore seen a listing so blatantly false – shame on you Bob

By: Clifford

Clifford — Thu, 10 Apr 2014 19:42:37 +0000

It’s also a VG at best…

By: Fredrik

Fredrik — Thu, 10 Apr 2014 17:58:52 +0000

But it has inc as well. It’s not an accurate label.