$hade$ Of Redd
Well, whaddya know: Freddie Redd, Shades of Redd, Blue Note 4045. This was the one we mentioned the other day from our friend Rudolf. Mint condition, original pressing. The speculation was that this would be the one to break the $2,000 barrier. Indeed. It sold for $3,551.50. Guess I got my copy just in time. Rudolf, could you ever have imagined that your jazz records would bring this kind of annuity? How about this one: Joe Henderson, Page One, Blue Note 4140. This was an original mono New York USA label. The record was listed in EX+ condition and the cover was EX. The final price was $941.
New Jazz (as opposed to new jazz) updates: Benny Golson, Getting’ With It, New Jazz 8248. This was an original deep groove purple label. The record was listed in M- condition and the cover was VG+. Looks like the back cover was signed by Tommy Flanagan. The final price was $381. Eric Dolphy, Out There, New Jazz 8252. Original pressing, record VG, cover VG+, final price $267.98; Eric Dolphy, Outward Bound, New Jazz 8236. Original pressing, record VG, cover VG+ final price $299.99.
Al, you asked me a question to which my answer, unsurprisingly, is NO. My dear late mother, when I, still a boy, came home with yet another lp album, would sigh and exclaim “when you will be old, how will you ever get rid of those records?”
The answer is given in time, I am old now.
I started collecting at the age of fifteen and have always bought spare copies of top albums, whenever I could.
At some point we all have to make a decision what to do with our collections when we get “old”, that is, if we are afforded the luxury to grow old without any sudden health problems or unfortunate events.
Question for those who buy records through Instagram and private sales: have the prices in these venues also increased sharply as they have with eBay and Discogs?
I don’t buy through Instagram but it surprises me that the records seem to sell instantly and are priced a good bit higher than the going rates on Discogs or eBay.
Aaron, I am not on Instagram, but wonder how it practically works to sell via this medium. Does it imply to have a group of followers, or “friends ” like on Facebook? Then you offer them an item at a fixed price, I presume. Of course, there is no search engine.
My experience has been mostly through DM from folks who tend to follow each other and have bought/sold albums in the past.
Rudolf – There’s a pretty sizable community of jazz vinyl collectors on Instagram, from all over world. Most of us follow each other, and some of us die hards have even organized meet-ups in different parts of the US. We don’t use IG just for selling vinyl, but I have sold hundreds of albums through this platform over the past 3 to 4 years. There’s no hassle with fees, I rarely ever had to return an album, and it has become my exclusive medium for selling vinyl, and in return I’ve bought many albums from collectors that I’ve met there.
Of course there aren’t moderators and there is no buyers protection, but when people know each other, it’s your reputation that’s at stake, not just as a seller or buyer, but as a person. Only once I’ve heard of a guy who sold rare jazz vinyl on IG who never shipped after getting the money, but he was quickly exposed and some angry buyers managed to track him down (although I’m not sure if he ever paid them back). That’s the only case that I know of … overall it’s a great community and a great source for buying and selling jazz vinyl.
DJ Pari: thank you for your interesting comments. I will get myself organised and open an IG account. If I need further guidance, I will not hesitate to contact you.
Ebay seems to have dissociated itself from PayPal. By the first of July Ebay require sellers to give their banking details and Ebay will channel all payments from buyers directly into seller’s account, at a fee of course. Sellers who don’t comply cannot sell anymore. They sent me three reminders. To prepare this coup, they must have worked for months and months, if not years. There is no escape, it applies to Ebay, Holland, France, etc.
Rudolf,
eBay’s new payment system is not very friendly to sellers, in my opinion.
They collect the money, take their fees out of it and after 3-4 days transfer what’s left to your bank account.
I would try to have my selling item end on a Sunday, so there was a chance of getting the money by Thursday-Friday. eBay does not transfer monies over the weekend.
I’ve mostly stopped selling on eBay; basically with 4 records left of my once 2500+, I’ve nothing left to sell.
My sense is that the IG prices are “priced to sell” +/-. There is not really a bidding process. Discogs is a mess. Some realistic people wanting to sell records and others throwing super-high prices out there hoping to catch a whale swimming by. There are also people I know who just watching discogs all day refreshing their want list and hoping to catch a mistake and pouncing quickly. Unfortunately my day job precludes that flexibility.
eBay seems like it going from bad to worse as a platform. It used to be really good 15 years ago when I started down this road, but now I don’t even bother.
lennib: which 4 made the cut? 🙂
Price on that Page One almost seems low in the current market frankly … nice copes of that’ve gone over 1K several times in the past. Would’ve expected this one to do so as well with the way prices’ve been soaring the past few months. Think the guy who sold it had some sketchy listings in the past though, perhaps that kept the price down?
That Shades of Redd though, whew … that’s over twice the previous high price. Now there’s a record (pun intended).
Honestly at this point I’ve sort of resigned myself to the possibility that I’ll never be able to pick up another original Blue Note at a decent price, or at least not for a long while. Which I find myself being surprisingly fine with, as I think I pretty much have all the ones that feel essential to me … there’s maybe a dozen or so big ticket titles that I’d like to add given the opportunity, but I can live without ’em.
Let us know when you join Rudolf. You should have no trouble selling records on IG and you can avoid those ever rising ebay fees. do you have a list of what you have left to sell? I’m still looking for a copy of Juju and Round About Midnight at the Cafe Bohemia 😉
I’ve been having some success selling on discogs, although i’m not selling much jazz and almost no vintage jazz. I like how straight forward it all is verse ebay.
Fredrik-
Re your inquiry as to which made cut, as most of the music I enjoy I replaced with cds or can hear online, the ones I kept are mainly for pure sentimental value.
They are:
Charlie Parker Night and day MGM Verve, first Jazz record I ever bought and the one I mentioned in column I wrote for Al and all that I would keep.
Gene Shaw’s 3 lps on Argo, Breakthrough, Debut in Blues, Carnival Sketches. He was the first Jazz musician I ever met in person back in ’65-66 and he inscribed two of the three to me.
Thanks for the insight lennib. Made me think of which 4 records I would keep myself, if I was to sell everything in the future (strictly hypothetically of course)… wouldn’t be an easy choice.
Nicks on IG ? mine is Karls_jazz_vinyl
Will post my copy on IG.
My IG is karls_jazz_vinyl
Yours?
mine is jazz_peasant
Mine is jazzwurd
@djpari_
@the.sojourner1
Fredrik.
Since we shared words on my last four Jazz records, I thought I might share this with you.
As of 7/15, I have sold the last 4.
Lennib: thanks for sharing. I hope it feels allright. 🙂