Jazz Vinyl Catch-Up: Two For the $2,000 Bin
Let’s catch up on some of the jazz vinyl we’ve been watching.
As some of you have noted, this one did sell after all: Hank Mobley Quartet, Blue Note 5066. This was the one that had the start price near $2,000 and was in M- condition for the record and cover. So, welcome to the $2,000 bin: It sold for $2,050.
Also in the $2,000 in is this from the Jazz Record Center: Art Pepper, Modern Art, Intro 606. This was also in M- condition for the record and the cover and it sold for $2,025.
How about the Sonny Rollins with the cover on the side: Sonny Rollins, Blue Note 1542. This was a Lexington Avenue pressing with the flat edge. We’re assuming that when the seller took the picture, he turned the cover around to show the name clearly and the opening is really by the yellow, where it belongs. We’re also assuming the winning bidder is assuming the same thing, since the price was $766.
Here’s that M- Thad Jones LP that was sealed, although as someone pointed out, were the actually sealing records at the time? The Magnificent Thad Jones Volume 3, Blue Note 1546.This one sold for $430, which, given the condition, sounds like a bargain in this market. From the same seller was this: Hank Mobley, No Room For Squares, Blue Note 4149. This was described as an original mono pressing, although the seller would have been better off including more pictures to affirm that. It sold for $356.01. We did see a copy of this record enter the $1,000 bin a few weeks ago.
Al, so nice you are posting “full throttle” again..
can’t be said enough: thanks for doing this great site!!
hear hear!
Always a good read and super informative.
I’m a little surprised that Rollins went for as much as it did.. the cover doesn’t appear to be in the best of shape. I am suprised about that Thad Jones as well, I was thinking it was going to go for way more.
Ya never know these days.
I recently bought on Ebay one Hank Mobley BN 5066 in accurate VG+/VG+ condition for $500 by Buy it Now.
Hello All
I just finished reading Larry Cohn article on FLAT RIM / Safety LIP – I guess once I can figure out what’s the differance I will be OK Can someone describe the differances and what to look for.
step by step. Thanks
Nick, It’s tough to describe but really simple to look at in a picture. I don’t have a camera(except my phone which takes crap pictures) but I do recommend asking for pictures or a much much better solution if you want to seriously collect blue notes would be to check out Fred Cohen’s book reviewed on this site. It has very good pictures.
Do you own any 10″ Blue Notes(or any other label), these are highly likely to be a Flat Rim. Any records pressed in the 60’s onward are going to most likely have a safety lip.
Hope that helps.
Hi
Blue Note lover from Sweden here. Was the LPs really factory sealed in 1957? I thought that was into the 60s they started with shrink wrap?
/Shaft
nick, the edge of a record can be flat, that means that if you stack records on top of each other, the whole record will touch the record below or above. With a safety-lip the edge of the record is thicker, so if you would stack the records on top of eachother, only the edge(because it is thicker then the rest of the vinyl) will touch the other records.
Hello
Thanks Maarten kools. I understand but I am still confused. I have a Blue Note 1534 lex and I examined it with a later pressing 4177 nyc. On 1534 from the edge in there are 5 lines on the 4177 there are 3.
Oh well any body else with help.
The lines have nothing to do with a flat edge. If you hold a flat edge record up to the light at an angle you can see that the record surface all the way to the edge is PERFECTLY flat. You can see the slight raised edge if you hold a standard groove guard record the same way. The 200g SV-P Classic Records Blue Notes were pressed with a flat edge if you want to see what it looks like.
Hello Aaron
Thanks but I did what you said they all look the same to me LOL
I have been away from collecting for around 12 years. The research that has gone into Blue Notes is really something. When I use to have the Japanese over years ago to buy records I really dont think they cared much or knew, they would buy everything . If I ever walked into Jimmy Daytons on 12 & Broadway NYC and told him I needed only Flat Edge Blue Notes he would laugh and throw me out. Well good luck in your collecting
Any other old labels with FLAT EDGE. I’m gonna figure this out yet
Nick, most other labels had flat edge. It’s kind of like deep groove in that records were manufactured one way and then upgraded later as technology improved.
Nick, here’s a link to a graphic illustration: http://www.orb.co.jp/audio/FAQ.html#df01
Hope this helps!
Hello Aaron,
Is this the Japanese site I see what appears to be two records one has a flat end and the other round. Is this it?
Also I guess I know what my problem is now I have depth perception… They all appear the same to me. Any body here from New York City?
Nick, you should also be able to feel the safety lip.