Jenkins, Trane, KD and A New High For Wes
Here’s some more jazz vinyl worth noting:
This one is for the $1,000 bin: John Jenkins with Kenny Burrell, Blue Note 1573. This was an original West 63rd deep groove pressing that was in M- condition for the vinyl and VG++ for the cover. The price was $1,125.
This one certainly got top dollar, close to the $1,000 bin: Kenny Dorham, Whistle Stop, Blue Note 4063. This was an original pressing that looked to be in VG++ condition for the record and VG+ for the cover. The price was $989.
John Coltrane, Coltrane, Prestige 7105. This was an original yellow label New York pressing. The record was in VG++ condition and the cover VG+. The price was $965.
This one was a surprise:
Wes Montgomery, Full House, Riverside 434. This was an original blue label pressing and it had the deep grooves, which seems to make it pretty rare. The record was VG++ and the cover was VG+. The price was $710.07, which sets a new high for this record in the Jazz Collector Price Guide. I looked at my copy, which I purchased recently for $50 in an auction — a live auction, with people in person actually bidding — and it has the blue label and Bill Grauer Productions but no deep groove. It’s in beautiful M- condition and I am quite pleased to have it.
Question regarding Coltrane Prestige 7105, why do some covers have a red tint while most are yellow? I’ve seen red tint covers with both NY & NJ records inside so it doesn’t seem as it is necessarily an early or later pressing issue. Any ideas?
interesting question. Anyone?
I myself saw only early Bergenfield pressings with a red cover, no NYC ones and no later Bergenfields either. Would say red appeared (and disappeared) in 1958.
Of course, this is withspoken by Aaron, who saw red with NYC pressings inside, but how about the adress on the rear of these red covers?
In my case, there is no adress, as with the early Bergenfields. They just took off the NYC adress, but had not the new one printed. They used the stock of albums produced by G E M albums N.Y. and which came originally with N.Y. adress on the rear.
Boy that’s crazy money for Wes Montgomery. For real?! Of course, I ran to check my copy (black label, no DG, alas). Of course Wes is a legend in Jazz circles, but I never thought he carried the collector’s cache to bring anywhere near $700. If you’d asked me ahead of time, I’d have guessed $150 tops. How fast the mighty fall though, right? I use copies of “A Day in the Life” as giant drink coasters.
Japhy — I’m sure on Full House the presence of Johnny Griffin adds a lot to the cachet — and the value.
Al, agreed. And the point you make is one we sort of touch on from time to time on your site here: How much do sidemen add to the collectibility and value of a record? Maybe a post for another time, but there’s some interesting discussion to be had there. Are collectors broken into categories? For example, one collector focused only on a specific label while another is focused on getting everything a specific artist played on while another just loves to collect any and all jazz. I’m sure most of us here who sell on eBay know to mention the key sidemen names to boost a listing’s profile, and I realize the blue label DG of Wes here is a rare press, but (rhetorically asked) does the presence of Griffin really make it a $700 record?
Japhy — as you know, without being flip, what makes it a $700 record is that someone out there in eBay-land was willing to type $700 on the computer and put in the bid. Sometimes, when you are dealing with the computer and the money comes from Pay Pal and you don’t have to physically hand it over to someone, it starts to feel a little like play money, or chips in a casino. There’s a sense, I think, that sometimes it’s less like buying a record and more like playing a game.
Amen to that, Al. And I love it when they do it on my records! Cheers.
Rudolph thanks for the reply. My copy of 7105 with the red cover has no address on the back and is a Bergenfield pressing. The NY copies I’ve seen with the red cover have been on Popsike so I don’t know if there is an address on the back.