Comments on: Jenkins, Trane, KD and A New High For Wes

By: Aaron

Aaron — Thu, 07 Oct 2010 19:40:10 +0000

Rudolph thanks for the reply. My copy of 7105 with the red cover has no address on the back and is a Bergenfield pressing. The NY copies I’ve seen with the red cover have been on Popsike so I don’t know if there is an address on the back.

By: Japhy

Japhy — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 20:10:49 +0000

Amen to that, Al. And I love it when they do it on my records! Cheers.

By: Al

Al — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 19:45:39 +0000

Japhy — as you know, without being flip, what makes it a $700 record is that someone out there in eBay-land was willing to type $700 on the computer and put in the bid. Sometimes, when you are dealing with the computer and the money comes from Pay Pal and you don’t have to physically hand it over to someone, it starts to feel a little like play money, or chips in a casino. There’s a sense, I think, that sometimes it’s less like buying a record and more like playing a game.

By: Japhy

Japhy — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 17:43:16 +0000

Al, agreed. And the point you make is one we sort of touch on from time to time on your site here: How much do sidemen add to the collectibility and value of a record? Maybe a post for another time, but there’s some interesting discussion to be had there. Are collectors broken into categories? For example, one collector focused only on a specific label while another is focused on getting everything a specific artist played on while another just loves to collect any and all jazz. I’m sure most of us here who sell on eBay know to mention the key sidemen names to boost a listing’s profile, and I realize the blue label DG of Wes here is a rare press, but (rhetorically asked) does the presence of Griffin really make it a $700 record?

By: Al

Al — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 15:32:56 +0000

Japhy — I’m sure on Full House the presence of Johnny Griffin adds a lot to the cachet — and the value.

By: Japhy

Japhy — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 14:05:47 +0000

Boy that’s crazy money for Wes Montgomery. For real?! Of course, I ran to check my copy (black label, no DG, alas). Of course Wes is a legend in Jazz circles, but I never thought he carried the collector’s cache to bring anywhere near $700. If you’d asked me ahead of time, I’d have guessed $150 tops. How fast the mighty fall though, right? I use copies of “A Day in the Life” as giant drink coasters.

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Wed, 06 Oct 2010 08:52:35 +0000

interesting question. Anyone?
I myself saw only early Bergenfield pressings with a red cover, no NYC ones and no later Bergenfields either. Would say red appeared (and disappeared) in 1958.
Of course, this is withspoken by Aaron, who saw red with NYC pressings inside, but how about the adress on the rear of these red covers?
In my case, there is no adress, as with the early Bergenfields. They just took off the NYC adress, but had not the new one printed. They used the stock of albums produced by G E M albums N.Y. and which came originally with N.Y. adress on the rear.

By: Aaron

Aaron — Tue, 05 Oct 2010 18:58:17 +0000

Question regarding Coltrane Prestige 7105, why do some covers have a red tint while most are yellow? I’ve seen red tint covers with both NY & NJ records inside so it doesn’t seem as it is necessarily an early or later pressing issue. Any ideas?