Comments on: JRC Auction: Nice Vinyl, Rare DSM Book

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:20:30 +0000

I apologize for the double post, I thought the first one didn’t post

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:05:04 +0000

In reading the description for the Horace Parlan “Headin South” JRC has got up for bid, Fred says “(BLP 4062 has never been seen with a deep-groove on both sides.)”? Can anyone confirm this. I haven’t seen this info(nor one to the contrary before). This was in a transition period and there others that are reported with the same situation so it would make sense. Thanks for any info

By: Mike

Mike — Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:02:17 +0000

I was reading the description on Horace Parlan, “Headin south” auction by JRC. Fred says that, ” (BLP 4062 has never been seen with a deep-groove on both sides.)”. I though the only record this is true with is Kenny Drew’s Undercurrent. Anyone else have any certainty about this? Thanks

By: Mrs. C

Mrs. C — Tue, 20 Jul 2010 13:38:12 +0000

As a collector of DSM lithograph prints, I always follow this book whenever it comes up for sale, and have never seen even an asking price over $500. I don’t own this book, though I’d like to, but I do have about 50 lithographs hanging in my home, that he had given to my parents when they were neighbors in the 1950’s. Fantastic body of work.

By: Robert Orenstein

Robert Orenstein — Tue, 20 Jul 2010 02:45:58 +0000

Robert Orenstein Says:
In order for the BLP 1549 to be a “1st pressing” the label shall have on both sides New York 23. Clearly the Jazz Record Center copy has New York 23 on only one side. Furthermore the album appears to have a safety lip wherin 1st pressings would have the “flat edge”. Based on all the evidence including the presence of the “ear”, all one can conclude is that this particular album was pressed prior to the purchase of Blue Note by Liberty.

By: don-lucky

don-lucky — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:15:05 +0000

…S**t ! I gave credit to the wrong “Cohen” in that last comment about the ‘Safety lip’ stampers. It was actually Larry Cohn who provided that information for us. (Thanks again Larry !)

By: don-lucky

don-lucky — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 20:00:03 +0000

p.s. – For anyone who doesn’t already know, the copyright insignia of ‘Plastylite’ inscribed as a cursive “P” in the runoff is often described as an “ear” by ebay sellers… It’s also the first proof that any disk is a Blue Note era (pre-1966) pressed record.

I agree with Hiromasa, the 1st pressing of BLP 1549 should probably have a ‘flat-edge’, this one sounds like a later pressing to me as well based on Fred Cohen’s research stating that “Safety Lip stampers were created back in July 1957, first used for the release of BLP 1562 (Horace) and BLP 1561 (Sabu)”

By: don-lucky

don-lucky — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 16:40:21 +0000

Hi Rudolf ! …I think Fred must be referring to the cursive “P” refering to the stamper’s inscribed P for ‘Plastylite’ (pressing plant)… As for the “beaded rim” must refer to this one having a safty lip edge instead of a flat-edge…

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 15:19:26 +0000

DSM’s Jazz graphics: I never saw a copy, hard or soft cover, but $ 1500 is a steep price.
Regarding BLP 1549: I think it is not a first pressing since the labels should be New York 23 both sides, as is my copy.
I wonder what Fred means by a beaded surface and a “P” pressing. I never came across this “P” and my dictionary does not feature the word “beaded”.

By: Hiromasa Noguchi

Hiromasa Noguchi — Mon, 19 Jul 2010 14:49:32 +0000

Dear every collectors,
This is my first email for this website from Tokyo.
I would like to mention about for Cliff Jordan LP(BLP1549).
I think JRC define as like :
the original LP must have 47 West 63rd NY23 address on both side of its label.
And disc must be flat edge……