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		By: Michel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jun 2021 07:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another layer of shameless misleading and deliberate confusion  in the Dexter auction is the picture of a pre-liberty inner sleeve...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another layer of shameless misleading and deliberate confusion  in the Dexter auction is the picture of a pre-liberty inner sleeve&#8230;</p>
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		By: gregory the fish		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gregory the fish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2021 18:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[DaveS:

There&#039;s a sucker born ever minute, and Bob sells far fewer than a record a minute. I think that&#039;s the real answer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DaveS:</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a sucker born ever minute, and Bob sells far fewer than a record a minute. I think that&#8217;s the real answer.</p>
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		By: DaveS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DaveS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2021 03:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Even if you detest his lack of truth in advertising, we about talking about 12 separate bidders for whom caveat emptor was put aside. I have no sympathy for people dropping major $$$ and being too lazy to buy Fred&#039;s book for $45 or even reading this free website.  What is more interesting to me is the resale market for these buyers. Bob has easily sold 1000s of high end jazz records over the years.  How do the original buyers feel when they try to sell or trade these pieces without Bob&#039;s hype machine provenance backing them up? You would think that these buyers would stop buying from him once they realized they dramatically overpaid.  Yet the demand seems endless. 

Question: Is there a parallel jazz collector universe that we don&#039;t know about where the generally accepted guidelines of collecting don&#039;t apply? Bizzarrojazzcollector.com?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if you detest his lack of truth in advertising, we about talking about 12 separate bidders for whom caveat emptor was put aside. I have no sympathy for people dropping major $$$ and being too lazy to buy Fred&#8217;s book for $45 or even reading this free website.  What is more interesting to me is the resale market for these buyers. Bob has easily sold 1000s of high end jazz records over the years.  How do the original buyers feel when they try to sell or trade these pieces without Bob&#8217;s hype machine provenance backing them up? You would think that these buyers would stop buying from him once they realized they dramatically overpaid.  Yet the demand seems endless. </p>
<p>Question: Is there a parallel jazz collector universe that we don&#8217;t know about where the generally accepted guidelines of collecting don&#8217;t apply? Bizzarrojazzcollector.com?</p>
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		By: Martin Kelly		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Kelly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jun 2021 10:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been resisting commenting on this one for several days but I find I can non longer ignore the compulsion to scratch the itch.

First, the easy bit: yes, Art, I have sometimes tried to pay more for a record because it was under-priced. Two circumstances in which that has happened: a). when it&#039;s a close friend or relative who I want to do right by; b). a local friendly real-world bricks-and-mortar store that I want to stay in business. Sure, I could take the short term win but we have to look to the longer term too - if we all exploit under-pricing by these outlets then they&#039;ll wither and die which will restrict our future collecting opportunities.

Now on to Bob D...

I&#039;g going to choose my words with care and recall what our grannies said about if you&#039;ve got nothing nice to say, don&#039;t say anything. Then I&#039;m going to slightly ignore that advice :-)

This guys cherry picks when it comes to his definition of what&#039;s an &quot;original&quot; pressing. And he always cherry picks on the side that is most advantageous to him. After watching many of his auctions over the years (including some records I would very much like to add to my collection like the batch of Strata-Easts he recently had for sale) I&#039;ve concluded that he does not reach a high enough standard of trustworthiness for me to do business with him.

I empathise with the caveat emptor view expressed by several other commenters here that people ought to due their due diligence research first before paying inappropriately high prices. However, those prices don&#039;t just sting those buyers - they hurt us all because they tend to artificially inflate future prices. Both eBay bidders and sellers look at historical prices and set their expectations on what they see but they don&#039;t necessarily look closely enough to spot that many top-dollar prices are associated with a particular seller.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been resisting commenting on this one for several days but I find I can non longer ignore the compulsion to scratch the itch.</p>
<p>First, the easy bit: yes, Art, I have sometimes tried to pay more for a record because it was under-priced. Two circumstances in which that has happened: a). when it&#8217;s a close friend or relative who I want to do right by; b). a local friendly real-world bricks-and-mortar store that I want to stay in business. Sure, I could take the short term win but we have to look to the longer term too &#8211; if we all exploit under-pricing by these outlets then they&#8217;ll wither and die which will restrict our future collecting opportunities.</p>
<p>Now on to Bob D&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;g going to choose my words with care and recall what our grannies said about if you&#8217;ve got nothing nice to say, don&#8217;t say anything. Then I&#8217;m going to slightly ignore that advice 🙂</p>
<p>This guys cherry picks when it comes to his definition of what&#8217;s an &#8220;original&#8221; pressing. And he always cherry picks on the side that is most advantageous to him. After watching many of his auctions over the years (including some records I would very much like to add to my collection like the batch of Strata-Easts he recently had for sale) I&#8217;ve concluded that he does not reach a high enough standard of trustworthiness for me to do business with him.</p>
<p>I empathise with the caveat emptor view expressed by several other commenters here that people ought to due their due diligence research first before paying inappropriately high prices. However, those prices don&#8217;t just sting those buyers &#8211; they hurt us all because they tend to artificially inflate future prices. Both eBay bidders and sellers look at historical prices and set their expectations on what they see but they don&#8217;t necessarily look closely enough to spot that many top-dollar prices are associated with a particular seller.</p>
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		By: lowstephenell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lowstephenell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2021 16:32:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s incredible how much time and effort that seller Bob puts into his factually incorrect description about Blue Note provenance. And such terrible attempts at humor throughout that just come off as laughable. We understand you don&#039;t want to accept the facts of life Bob but at least stop putting so much effort into crafting a factually incorrect description. The burden is on the buyers though and the top bidders of this auction are so misinformed it hurts. Or maybe the buyers are just like Bob and don&#039;t use the record deadwax information at all just the labels haha.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s incredible how much time and effort that seller Bob puts into his factually incorrect description about Blue Note provenance. And such terrible attempts at humor throughout that just come off as laughable. We understand you don&#8217;t want to accept the facts of life Bob but at least stop putting so much effort into crafting a factually incorrect description. The burden is on the buyers though and the top bidders of this auction are so misinformed it hurts. Or maybe the buyers are just like Bob and don&#8217;t use the record deadwax information at all just the labels haha.</p>
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		By: Justin		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2021 15:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anyone remember when the Plastylite &quot;P&quot; became a defacto standard to id&#039;ing original pressings? I don&#039;t remember looking for it 25 years ago, but maybe that was just my ignorance.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone remember when the Plastylite &#8220;P&#8221; became a defacto standard to id&#8217;ing original pressings? I don&#8217;t remember looking for it 25 years ago, but maybe that was just my ignorance.</p>
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		By: gregory the fish		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[gregory the fish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2021 13:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Art: in person, with friends, yes I have actually done that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art: in person, with friends, yes I have actually done that.</p>
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		By: DJ Pari		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DJ Pari]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jun 2021 12:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Greg is spot on, it just needs to be said: This seller is a conman who preys on the ignorance of his buyers, and he has been working his scheme for a long time, successfully, unregulated and  unpunished by eBay. It’s one thing to omit important info from a listing, but this guy flat out lies about his sales. 

That said, I don’t feel sorry for the buyers either. When you’re ready to drop $2k on a record, you better do your homework before setting that snipe. It’s almost like some of these buyers are asking for it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg is spot on, it just needs to be said: This seller is a conman who preys on the ignorance of his buyers, and he has been working his scheme for a long time, successfully, unregulated and  unpunished by eBay. It’s one thing to omit important info from a listing, but this guy flat out lies about his sales. </p>
<p>That said, I don’t feel sorry for the buyers either. When you’re ready to drop $2k on a record, you better do your homework before setting that snipe. It’s almost like some of these buyers are asking for it.</p>
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		By: japhy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[japhy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2021 18:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I wish we had a reaction button for these comments! But be careful, Bob might send Al another nasty &quot;cease and desist&quot; email like he did a couple years ago. Al should totally re-post that one.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish we had a reaction button for these comments! But be careful, Bob might send Al another nasty &#8220;cease and desist&#8221; email like he did a couple years ago. Al should totally re-post that one.</p>
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		By: Art Klempner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Art Klempner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2021 18:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sleepers awake ! The curse of Capitalism strikes again ! Be it jazz records or a loaf of bread. Here&#039;s one I thought to run by everyone . Did you ever try to pay a guy more for a record because he had priced too low and you wanted to be fair ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sleepers awake ! The curse of Capitalism strikes again ! Be it jazz records or a loaf of bread. Here&#8217;s one I thought to run by everyone . Did you ever try to pay a guy more for a record because he had priced too low and you wanted to be fair ?</p>
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