Comments on: Keeping Track of 10-Inch LPs https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/keeping-track-of-10-inch-lps/ For those who love jazz Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:41:47 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Gregory the Fish https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/keeping-track-of-10-inch-lps/comment-page-1/#comment-347661 Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:41:47 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=6125#comment-347661 horsti:

please name me in your will. thanks.

]]> By: Horsti62 https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/keeping-track-of-10-inch-lps/comment-page-1/#comment-347636 Mon, 22 Sep 2014 12:54:55 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=6125#comment-347636 Monk, Navarro, Powell and “Birdland”: I got ´em all double as Lexington 10″ & 12″ pressings. Finally I prefer 12″ because they sound a little bit better and the covers are in a better condition.
Why does 12″ sound better ? Perhaps because of the improved Ampeg tape machines they could use in ´56? I don´t know.
But I´m rather sure that 12″ doesn´t justify the several times higher prices.

]]> By: lennib https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/keeping-track-of-10-inch-lps/comment-page-1/#comment-347586 Sun, 21 Sep 2014 21:34:06 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=6125#comment-347586 And so this 10″ auction ended and the VG+ Monk sold for $500.00 +.
Looks like the feeding frenzy has moved to 10″ps.

]]> By: Rudolf https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/keeping-track-of-10-inch-lps/comment-page-1/#comment-347568 Sun, 21 Sep 2014 14:16:31 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=6125#comment-347568 I have early black ones in 10″ and 12″ format. The 10″ ones sound rather bad, but they are not new (E). A 12″, Brubeck – # 3-210, is in rigid material, but sounds very good. Condition NM+ though, so not surprising. I guess they are vinyl. For the coloured ones, sellers often describe them as “red/green etc vinyl”. Ignorance?
CR had some red vinyl issues (2501 and 3501), as had PJ (1204 and 1208).

]]> By: Terry https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/keeping-track-of-10-inch-lps/comment-page-1/#comment-347567 Sun, 21 Sep 2014 13:18:14 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=6125#comment-347567 Rudolph,
All of the Fantasy black colored material I’ve seen are vinyl. I have not seen all of the very earliest blacks’ as I already had the colored versions.

]]> By: Fredrik https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/keeping-track-of-10-inch-lps/comment-page-1/#comment-347566 Sun, 21 Sep 2014 12:52:31 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=6125#comment-347566 Thanks to both Terry & Rudolf for sharing this information. Either way… I would buy a Prestige 10″ pressed on a material which is not vinyl if it’s a 1st pressing in great condition. If you want a 1st pressing then you have to swallow that the material of the record is inferior to other, later materials. As well as the sound recording of course. Good to know that the 10″ Blue Notes and Pacific Jazz releases used good stuff.

]]> By: Rudolf https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/keeping-track-of-10-inch-lps/comment-page-1/#comment-347560 Sun, 21 Sep 2014 11:24:46 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=6125#comment-347560 I am not a chemist, but I noted that Prestige 10″ albums were in the beginning (those with the blue labels) pressed on inflexible thick material which was scratchy. The quality improved when the blue/grey stars label was introduced. At the end of the 10″ period, the labels turned to yellow/black and the quality was excellent, thanks to AB.
I never came across 10″ Blue Notes with inferior vinyl, nor CR or PJ.
Fantasy is a case in itself, the Weiss Bros (the owners) being merchants or producers of plastic. The coloured (blue, violet, green, red) 10″ Fantasy albums were scratchy indeed. Sometimes they were alternated by black versions (Terry: vinyl or black plastic?). The colour tradition lingered on to the early sixties. Early 12″ came in violet, green and red or red marbled, but also in rigid black material. Later versions are thin, black or red, flexible and easy to bend. The end was red or black for mono and blue for stereo.

]]> By: Terry https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/keeping-track-of-10-inch-lps/comment-page-1/#comment-347558 Sun, 21 Sep 2014 11:07:17 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=6125#comment-347558 Fredrik,
I can not remember when BN, Prestige et al first released 10″ LPs. Some of the first ‘vinyl’ LPs were not even close chemically to what we view as vinyl today. They were mostly vinyl, but needed a stiffener to retain shape and rigidity. This product chipped in the groove similar to the Bakelite, just not as bad. By 1961/2 the vinyl polymers had advanced enough that the stiffeners were no longer necessary. This improved sound quality exponentially, especially on stereo releases.

]]> By: Fredrik https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/keeping-track-of-10-inch-lps/comment-page-1/#comment-347546 Sun, 21 Sep 2014 07:46:33 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=6125#comment-347546 Terry: this is very disturbing information, are you saying that 10″ Blue Notes and Prestiges are pressed on plastic and not vinyl? Seems very odd..

]]> By: bill https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/keeping-track-of-10-inch-lps/comment-page-1/#comment-347532 Sun, 21 Sep 2014 03:00:18 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=6125#comment-347532 Terry – Thank you for that great post. Very informative. My wife has some lovely Bakelite jewelry but I wouldn’t want to put any on my turntable.

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