On EBay: Norgans, Riverside, Transition, More
Here are some interesting items on eBay now:
My friend Steve at Roundagain Records in Providence has a few nice records closing pretty soon, including: Bud Powell, Jazz Original, Norgran 1017. This is an original yellow label, deep groove pressing. The record is VG++ and the cover is VG+. The price is already close to $150. Here’s another Norgran: An Evening With Anita O’Day, Norgran 1057. This is also an original yellow label pressing. The record and cover are in M- condition and the price is about $115. Here’s one more: Lucky Thompson, Lucky Strikes, Transition 21. This one is in VG+ to VG++ condition for the cover and record and it includes the booklet, which is not always so easy to find with the record anymore. This one is close to $200.
This one is more than $80 but hasn’t yet met the seller’s reserve price:
Johnny Griffin Sextet, Riverside 264. This is an original pressing and it is described as being in near mint condition. It’ll be interesting to see if it reaches the seller’s reserve price, and what that reserve price may be.
This is from another seller that also has a storefront, Vinylhighway, which owns Looney Tunes in Boston: Dizzy Reece, Star Bright, Blue Note 4023. This may or may not be an original. It has the West 63rd Street address, but the seller doesn’t mention whether it has a deep groove and the picture is unclear. My guess is that, with a knowledgeable seller such as this, if there was a deep groove it would be mentioned, so I’d be a bit circumspect if I were bidding, which I’m not. Actually, if I really wanted to bid, I’d send a note to the seller asking about the deep groove. The record and cover are VG++ and the price is around $115.
Does anybody know if there are original pressings on Signal that do not have a deep groove ?
Thanks Jan
But is that the original jacket on the Griffin Sextet? There is an inc on the back which makes me think it’s a later jacket. Is Michel around reading?
To Bob — not sure if it is a later jacket or not. The bidding reached $255 and it still didn’t make the seller’s reserve price.
Great that you name a few of your favorite record shops . I am sure that I will visit them when I am around!
I’d say that this Griffin sextet is the original. Because 0f the adress on back (553 is correct adress for this one) and because of the large DG label, which also is correct for the period. Anyway it did not sell for 250,which is surprising…Seller relisted it with a Buy it Now price of 350. By the way, i’m looking for a NM or VG++ cover of this one !! I’ve a NM record seating in a poor cover.. if someone has this rarebird…
Michel: are you sure this is the large label? Looks to me like the ssmaller label version.
Rudolf : the LARGE BLUE LABEL is the first label (after the white label, of course) for 241 – around 280. Then comes the SMALL BLUE LABEL (for around 280 – around 330), often taken as the orginal label, by the Japanese collectors (in fact the small label bearing number around 260 and more are second press !!) And around number 330 there is a NEW TYPE OF LARGE LABEL, but with a different type of deep groove (more pronounced)
Michel, thank you indeed, it is 100% true what you are saying, but I thought that this particular album, which was being discussed, has the small label.(I may be wrong).
By the way, all the original big labels which I have in my collection, come directly from the US, with these patent numbers in the dead wax. All the older Riversides which I bought in Europe through official import channels, have the small labels, starting with 12-241 and 12-256, my first Riversides, which I bought in ’59/’60. This means to say that regular imports into Europe of Riversides started only in the small blue label period.
I wish you good luck with your cover problem.
i just found my first lexington ave. label (both sides)/deep groove today on Horace Silver’s 6 pieces of silver. six bucks, and plays vg+ with a great vg+ cover. Does anyone know what this might be worth?
Max — Good for you. If you look in the Price Guide you’ll see that VG+ copies of this have sold between $100 and $150. It could be more now with the Blue Note market doing so well.
I have been researching cover addresses for Riverside based on Michel’s helpful hints. My collection is limited, but I have no inc on the cover with large blue labels at 12-261. It is definitely on my 12-270 & those after. It would seem to appear sometime in 1958. Also the 235 address seems to start around 12-315. I have been focusing on these albums, but am fascinated to find out when the Inc first appeared.
aside from large or small labels, the label that does not have Inc. has to be the earlier pressing.
interesting to note a VG++ copy of the griffin lp went for 500 in december. that guy Bobjokovic on ebay gets good prices!