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		By: dclark2171		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Feb 2020 01:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Are the Blue Note DMM&#039;s from 84/85 are sourced from analog or digital?]]></description>
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		By: The Black Hand		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Nov 2017 07:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If you collect records but never play the records, then sound quality means very little--right? 

Looking at the covers, checking off the boxes of the have and have not become the sole reason for the hunt. But if you are buying the original pressing of your favorite record (to hear a better quality recording) and find that the reissue sound better than the $400 first pressing you paid for---you learn a valuable lesson... The man at the pressing plant determines the quality of what you buy. Were the presses hot that day when your record was made? Did you get the first records off the press, (in the morning) or the middle or the end of the day&#039;s run? Was the plastic mixed correctly? Was he/she having a bad day, and the attention to quality lacking? Record quality is determined based on the professionalism of the company&#039;s standards and the press operated of that day... And plants varied greatly in those days as those who run the presses. 

You can have a $10,000 system or more, but if the record was pressed badly that day---what is it really worth (as a collector who doesn&#039;t play them)--its not really important nor an issue.

Paying for better needle or amp will not improve the sound quality of a badly pressed record.  Some of the best looking records--VG+ or M can sound very badly at times. 

I have own 1950&#039;s and 60&#039;s Fender&#039;s telecasters and stratocaster&#039;s and some of the early 70&#039;s CBS models sounded better. This is subjective and is determine by the person who wants the items and those who want to play it--right? So, I would say, if it works for you--fine. 

In truth, if quality of sound is what you are seeking, you better play it first before you buy, because no one really knows what you are going to get until you put it on... Some first pressing sound wonderful and others sounded badly...

If you are a true collector, and not so interested in how the record really sounds, then this works too. Everyone is happy and the end of the day...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you collect records but never play the records, then sound quality means very little&#8211;right? </p>
<p>Looking at the covers, checking off the boxes of the have and have not become the sole reason for the hunt. But if you are buying the original pressing of your favorite record (to hear a better quality recording) and find that the reissue sound better than the $400 first pressing you paid for&#8212;you learn a valuable lesson&#8230; The man at the pressing plant determines the quality of what you buy. Were the presses hot that day when your record was made? Did you get the first records off the press, (in the morning) or the middle or the end of the day&#8217;s run? Was the plastic mixed correctly? Was he/she having a bad day, and the attention to quality lacking? Record quality is determined based on the professionalism of the company&#8217;s standards and the press operated of that day&#8230; And plants varied greatly in those days as those who run the presses. </p>
<p>You can have a $10,000 system or more, but if the record was pressed badly that day&#8212;what is it really worth (as a collector who doesn&#8217;t play them)&#8211;its not really important nor an issue.</p>
<p>Paying for better needle or amp will not improve the sound quality of a badly pressed record.  Some of the best looking records&#8211;VG+ or M can sound very badly at times. </p>
<p>I have own 1950&#8217;s and 60&#8217;s Fender&#8217;s telecasters and stratocaster&#8217;s and some of the early 70&#8217;s CBS models sounded better. This is subjective and is determine by the person who wants the items and those who want to play it&#8211;right? So, I would say, if it works for you&#8211;fine. </p>
<p>In truth, if quality of sound is what you are seeking, you better play it first before you buy, because no one really knows what you are going to get until you put it on&#8230; Some first pressing sound wonderful and others sounded badly&#8230;</p>
<p>If you are a true collector, and not so interested in how the record really sounds, then this works too. Everyone is happy and the end of the day&#8230;</p>
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		By: jim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Nov 2017 22:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Some people have a  stamp collector mentality when it comes to original pressings. All that matters to me is the sound quality. And the only way to know for sure is line up a bunch of different pressings and do a shoot off.

Sometimes the latter blue label blue note pressings sound the best and when they do I sell the original and keep whatever pressing sounds the best. Sometimes the originals sound good but pressing equipment in the 50&#039;s was not so great. I realize my views are out of the mainstream but I&#039;ve been doing this for a long time........]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some people have a  stamp collector mentality when it comes to original pressings. All that matters to me is the sound quality. And the only way to know for sure is line up a bunch of different pressings and do a shoot off.</p>
<p>Sometimes the latter blue label blue note pressings sound the best and when they do I sell the original and keep whatever pressing sounds the best. Sometimes the originals sound good but pressing equipment in the 50&#8217;s was not so great. I realize my views are out of the mainstream but I&#8217;ve been doing this for a long time&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Erik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2017 22:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great Comments!.....My own personal experience with originals &#038; reissues is always a surprise and that is the beauty and fun of vinyl.  I have original Blue Note&#039;s, Japan King&#039;s, Music Matters, Universal Japan 200G Mono&#039;s and can honestly say that yes originals are fantastic if you find them in NM condition but the Non-originals have also given me as much satisfaction.  I will hve to admit that I have all of Miles Davis&#039;s Columbia recordings in original pressing format in NM condition and love them to bits AND listen to them obsessively :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Comments!&#8230;..My own personal experience with originals &amp; reissues is always a surprise and that is the beauty and fun of vinyl.  I have original Blue Note&#8217;s, Japan King&#8217;s, Music Matters, Universal Japan 200G Mono&#8217;s and can honestly say that yes originals are fantastic if you find them in NM condition but the Non-originals have also given me as much satisfaction.  I will hve to admit that I have all of Miles Davis&#8217;s Columbia recordings in original pressing format in NM condition and love them to bits AND listen to them obsessively 😀</p>
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		By: thomoz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2017 18:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No one in this thread has mentioned the all analog, 2 disc 45 rpm Blue Note reissues of the last decade (priced about $50 ea) that quite clearly stomp the sound of the original lps by a wide margin.  

I have just the Horace Parlan &#039;Speakin&#039; My Piece&#039; 2x45rpm, and the piano and drum sound is so realistic it&#039;s scary.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one in this thread has mentioned the all analog, 2 disc 45 rpm Blue Note reissues of the last decade (priced about $50 ea) that quite clearly stomp the sound of the original lps by a wide margin.  </p>
<p>I have just the Horace Parlan &#8216;Speakin&#8217; My Piece&#8217; 2x45rpm, and the piano and drum sound is so realistic it&#8217;s scary.</p>
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		By: Paul S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Oct 2017 04:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[First pressings of classic jazz titles are collectibles, first and foremost. The fact that you can play them is now of secondary importance, given the current plethora of high grade reissues. Unfortunately, records are at the bottom of the totem pole in terms of the collectible hierarchy.  How often do you see old records being shown on ‘The Antiques Road Show’?  Unfortunately, never.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First pressings of classic jazz titles are collectibles, first and foremost. The fact that you can play them is now of secondary importance, given the current plethora of high grade reissues. Unfortunately, records are at the bottom of the totem pole in terms of the collectible hierarchy.  How often do you see old records being shown on ‘The Antiques Road Show’?  Unfortunately, never.</p>
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		By: Rob Sobkowski		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rob Sobkowski]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2017 12:03:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For me it is mainly about the music.  If I can find a reasonably priced reissue from a analog source I will grab it.  If the same $100.00 can buy 1 original with questionable sound or 3 brand new reissues sourced from the master tapes why not?  Three times the music.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me it is mainly about the music.  If I can find a reasonably priced reissue from a analog source I will grab it.  If the same $100.00 can buy 1 original with questionable sound or 3 brand new reissues sourced from the master tapes why not?  Three times the music.</p>
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		By: rl1856		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Oct 2017 22:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[RE: OJC

Phil DeLancie remasters appeared at the same time as the first generation of OJC CD issues.  Sonic comparisons upheld my suspicions.  My suspicions were confirmed when I was lucky enough to speak with a wholesale rep when visiting an audio store.  He explained that the OJC catalog was digitally remastered beginning in 1985 to create a uniform master that could be used for either C D or vinyl pressings.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: OJC</p>
<p>Phil DeLancie remasters appeared at the same time as the first generation of OJC CD issues.  Sonic comparisons upheld my suspicions.  My suspicions were confirmed when I was lucky enough to speak with a wholesale rep when visiting an audio store.  He explained that the OJC catalog was digitally remastered beginning in 1985 to create a uniform master that could be used for either C D or vinyl pressings.</p>
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		By: alun severn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2017 09:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I like &quot;old records&quot;.... But they certainly don&#039;t have to be originals. Generally speaking I&#039;ll buy whatever vinyl pressing I can afford and which can be found and I don&#039;t think I have ever spent more than GBP30.00 on a record. In extremis, I might now -- just about -- adjust that upwards to GBP50.00 for something I really wanted.

In a few instances I have replaced originals with later reissues and found an improvement in both sound and condition.

Personally, it isn&#039;t just about the music -- it is to some degree also about the record as artefact. But I tend to regard records much as I do books. While an absolutely compulsive book buyer, I would never under any circumstances expect (or require) every book I read to be a first edition hardback. If I happen to find a first edition hardback of a title I like *by chance*, then of course I gladly add it to the collection. But for general purposes, I buy the nicest edition I can afford and find, and &quot;nicest&quot; means decent production qualities, good condition, well used but well looked after...

Indeed, when set against some of the online collectors I read about here and elsewhere, it is doubtful that I even really qualify as a &quot;record collector&quot;. Just another compulsive record buyer...as I was when a teenager.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like &#8220;old records&#8221;&#8230;. But they certainly don&#8217;t have to be originals. Generally speaking I&#8217;ll buy whatever vinyl pressing I can afford and which can be found and I don&#8217;t think I have ever spent more than GBP30.00 on a record. In extremis, I might now &#8212; just about &#8212; adjust that upwards to GBP50.00 for something I really wanted.</p>
<p>In a few instances I have replaced originals with later reissues and found an improvement in both sound and condition.</p>
<p>Personally, it isn&#8217;t just about the music &#8212; it is to some degree also about the record as artefact. But I tend to regard records much as I do books. While an absolutely compulsive book buyer, I would never under any circumstances expect (or require) every book I read to be a first edition hardback. If I happen to find a first edition hardback of a title I like *by chance*, then of course I gladly add it to the collection. But for general purposes, I buy the nicest edition I can afford and find, and &#8220;nicest&#8221; means decent production qualities, good condition, well used but well looked after&#8230;</p>
<p>Indeed, when set against some of the online collectors I read about here and elsewhere, it is doubtful that I even really qualify as a &#8220;record collector&#8221;. Just another compulsive record buyer&#8230;as I was when a teenager.</p>
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		By: Gregory the Fish		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gregory the Fish]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2017 16:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[yeah richard, that was my point! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah richard, that was my point! 🙂</p>
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