Comments on: Rare Insanity

By: Tim

Tim — Tue, 07 Jan 2014 09:48:04 +0000

I have seen many many of these so-called first pressing auctions of bobs. They all seem to go for prices well above the going market rate and are often not first pressings at all – his descriptions seem to be incorrect. I find this very suspect, and his evasive answers even more so.

He seems to be connected to LondonJazzCollector, so may be the same person.

By: gandi

gandi — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 21:56:17 +0000

Agree with Joe, stereo version of MFT is annoying. I will look for a mono copy but they are quite costly … White fan stereo can be easily found at 50 bucks in NM condition.

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 16:26:28 +0000

Drew: thank you for drawing our attention to the evasive reply of Djukic. IMHO Djukic’s copy is a later pressing, original Blue Note, or not, but definitely not a first pressing.

By: Upstate Bill

Upstate Bill — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 15:07:21 +0000

I have often wondered what year Plastylite stopped using the P. If it was around ’65 or ’66 bobdjukic may have a point.

By: Drew

Drew — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 12:49:27 +0000

Here’s another odd claim that bobdjukic is making about his copy of Jackie McLean’s “New Soil” 4013 now on eBay. He states that it is a first edition, first original pressing; yet, it does NOT have “ears” or deep grooves. I asked him for an explanation about how this could be, and he avoided answering me directly by saying some people believe that with Blue Notes, the “ears” are the determining factor for originality but he’s not one of them. Say what? I asked him directly if he believed it was possible for a Blue Note record to not have ears but still be pressed on the Plastylite equipment. He wouldn’t answer the question. Something very odd is going on here:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/161181475629?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 08:52:55 +0000

Happy new year to Al’s Pals, and to Al and family, of course.
Loved this year’s starting title:
Rare Insanity. That is humor.

By: Joe L

Joe L — Thu, 02 Jan 2014 01:02:32 +0000

According to bsnpubs.com, the white fan was in use from 1333 to 1378. So correct as a first pressing for 1361. Goldmine confirms. Don’t understand the attraction for the Coltrane Atlantics in stereo – the instruments are so hard-separated, I find the records an annoying listen, so only have monos.

By: vinylzone

vinylzone — Wed, 01 Jan 2014 23:23:06 +0000

Happy new year to you Al and to all readers of jazzcollector.com!

Mike J is right. MFT was recorded between October 21 and 26, 1960, and was released early 1961. So yes, this is the correct label for an original stereo from 1961. The later stereo label which was used by Atlantic between 1962 and 1966 looks almost the same, but with a negative image of the fan on the right side of the label, showing a black fan on a white background instead.
By the way, the link title has a typo, it is Atlantic 1361 not 1311.

By: ceedee

ceedee — Wed, 01 Jan 2014 21:09:03 +0000

I’m looking to pick up a purple mono of MFT in a few weeks(I need to sell some of my own stuff first!) BTW,this goodie came up while I was You Tube today:I know many fans of this site have seen it,but for those who haven’t,it’s a real treat.
And it places Trane at around the time of his MFT sessions(some months before,judging by his tone?)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beCGdmrP8Xc

By: MikeC

MikeC — Wed, 01 Jan 2014 18:12:43 +0000

http://33rev.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58&Itemid=68

This is a decent guide for labels