Some Later Blue Note Pressings, Plus a Few More

Here are some odds and ends of interest for various reasons:

As prices have been rising for original Blue Notes, we’ve also been watching prices rise, although not as drastically for later pressings. We had an eye on this one: Wayne Shorter, Speak No Evil, Blue Note 4194. This was a stereo pressing with the Liberty label. The record as M- and the cover was VG++. It sold for $38. I couple of years ago, these Liberty pressings were selling in the $20 range, so there has been movement, as you would expect. When I first started collecting jazz in 1970 or so, if you went into a local store such as a Sam Goody, these were the pressings you would typically find. If I had been prescient, or if I had the money, I would have bought them all.

This seller was trying to take a shot with a record of similar vintage: Hank Mobley, No Room For Squares, Blue Note 4149. This didn’t have a description of the label, but it did clearly show in the picture that it was a Liberty pressing. He tried with a start price of $100. There were no bidders, and it has now been listed for around $50, with the same pictures. Presumably there will still be no bidders, but you can never tell. This seller’s feedback rating, by the way, is 98.8 percent.

This one is hard to figure:

Sonny Rollins, The Sound of Sonny, Riverside 241. This looks like an original white label pressing, quite rare, with the deep groove. It was sold by a reputable seller and  it was described as VG+ condition for both the record and the cover. It sold for $89. I would have expected it to sell for more. In the Jazz Collector Price Guide we’ve had copies of this record sell for more than $500, and VG+ copies sell for something in the range of $400. The key on this was the language “surface noise” in the description. VG+ and surface noise connotes potential listening challenges. As a seller, I also use the term “surface noise” when appropriate. While it deflates the value, it results in fewer dissatisfied customers. By the way, I still have some records of various vintage closing today, including this beautiful original by Stan Getz, which still has no bids, to my surprise: Stan Getz At the Shrine, Verve 8122. You can see my stuff for sale by clicking here.

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7 comments

  • I think the Getz Shrine original issue is a box set with a DSM cover.

  • I appreciate Vinylhighway. I bought some very pricey records from them when i was rich :-). And some cheap, too. Always cooperative, fine people. Fore sure its a good adress. Just like Roundagain, they deserve their success.

  • Shock for me tonight was the auction of a British press of Coltrane’s iconic 1966 Love Supreme, which was languishing at around $50 until it was bumped to near $500 in a two horse race in closing moments.

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190493797371&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

    I know some people worship this recording but I have the same pressing and its sonically the most odd stereo recording I have. Coltrane, who should be the focal point, is parked on the far left side, the other musicians muddy in the middle, and its like the right speaker is unplugged. Its so “unnatural” a soundstage I find it near impossible to listen to.

    The seller positively salivated in his description which might account for the late interest.

  • LC,
    I’m a big fan of stereo but I agree with you 100% about A Love Supreme, the mono version is the definitive version IMHO with Coltrane front and center.

  • Although on the stereo version at the very end of psalm it’s cool to hear the overdub where Coltrane is on the left and right. I only have the stereo but would love a mono too.

  • I forgot to mention that Van Gelder stereo pressings have a low level buzz throughout that is absent on the mono.

  • Hello All
    The more I read this site, the more I enjoy it. I just put some albums in an auction EBAY (7) Nothing exciting TEB2007. But since I value you guys and your comments I would like to have some comments on how to inprove on the write ups. You know years ago when I put out catalogs. Would just list the grading standards and what the abbreviations meant, most collectors understood! listings would look like this
    Crystal Joy – Hanover 8002 M-/M- MB $35.
    Thanks

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