Some Stereo Jazz Vinyl, Some Big Prices
Yes, as Mike F notes on another post, did you see the price of that Bill Evans Explorations record we were watching from the Jazz Record Center? It was a stereo pressing, black label original. It sold for $896. Great record, but that’s a pretty incredible price. It shows that the market for some of these collectibles is just so elastic. If someone wants the record, and he wants it in mint condition, the price is not necessarily an issue. I looked at all of the other results from this Jazz Record Center auction and none seemed quite so out of the ordinary as this one, although there were also some top prices paid for some nice records, including: Bobby Hutcherson, Dialogue, Blue Note 4198. This was an original mono pressing in M- condition. It sold for $491. Also, Jackie McLean, One Step Beyond, Blue Note 84137. This was an original STEREO version in M- condition. It sold for $237.50. That’s pretty high for a stere pressing, even an original, isn’t it? One more: Blue Mitchell, The Thing To Do, Blue Note 84178. This was also a stereo pressing, an original, and it was also in very nice M- condition. The price was $233.50. I guess the market for original Blue Note stereo pressings is now getting more interesting as well.
regarding the Hutcherson:.. I thought that a BN lp (after a certain number) with one-side deep groove was suposed to be ALWAYS a second pressing?? Especially after 4150…???somebody got the cohen book nearby?)
It’s Cohen’s listing. Whatever he says in the listing must be the story.
In Fred’s book it says 4198 should be a double sided DG. Maybe there is a story behind this, maybe it’s especially rare as a one-sided DG.
Al : absolutely agreed. Of course, Fred Cohen can sell record at a higher price than many other sellers. This is based on the reputation of the seller, the serious of the grading etc…
To some extent Fred Cohen could tell everything and the people would believe him and pay big prices.
Just my two cents.
hmmmm, I guess the DGx2 is the first and DGx1 is early (but not first). I think that the exceptional condition has a lot to do with it along with the reputation of the seller.
I have determined for my own purposes that I will consider anything after 4059 or so a first whether it has DG or not, as long as it has ear and proper labels – at least until something more definitive comes along. I think that was effectively Fred C’s conclusion in his response to JC readers re: 4059 with the preview stamp on the label and no DG.
not scientific but, sorry to admit it, your interpretation is right.
we’ll never get the DG truth after 4059.
I have often felt that the DG is erroneously used to establish the priority of a pressing – look at for example BN 1507 – the Lexington label is available without a DG and the 63rd (presumably 2nd pressing) is available with DG – is it possible that the latter is an earlier pressing, even though using a later label? – it seems likely that pressers that made a DG were being used contemporaneously with those that did not (although likely the DG machines were of an earlier vintage) – I therefore feel that, although you may prize a DG more if you wish, it should not be used to establish the date of a pressing