Comments on: Some Stereo Jazz Vinyl, Some Big Prices

By: Earl

Earl — Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:34:17 +0000

I have often felt that the DG is erroneously used to establish the priority of a pressing – look at for example BN 1507 – the Lexington label is available without a DG and the 63rd (presumably 2nd pressing) is available with DG – is it possible that the latter is an earlier pressing, even though using a later label? – it seems likely that pressers that made a DG were being used contemporaneously with those that did not (although likely the DG machines were of an earlier vintage) – I therefore feel that, although you may prize a DG more if you wish, it should not be used to establish the date of a pressing

By: dottorjazz

dottorjazz — Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:52:53 +0000

not scientific but, sorry to admit it, your interpretation is right.
we’ll never get the DG truth after 4059.

By: BigBear

BigBear — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 20:38:23 +0000

I have determined for my own purposes that I will consider anything after 4059 or so a first whether it has DG or not, as long as it has ear and proper labels – at least until something more definitive comes along. I think that was effectively Fred C’s conclusion in his response to JC readers re: 4059 with the preview stamp on the label and no DG.

By: Tim

Tim — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 15:57:15 +0000

hmmmm, I guess the DGx2 is the first and DGx1 is early (but not first). I think that the exceptional condition has a lot to do with it along with the reputation of the seller.

By: Katharsis

Katharsis — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 14:17:32 +0000

To some extent Fred Cohen could tell everything and the people would believe him and pay big prices.
Just my two cents.

By: michel

michel — Sun, 05 Feb 2012 08:36:06 +0000

Al : absolutely agreed. Of course, Fred Cohen can sell record at a higher price than many other sellers. This is based on the reputation of the seller, the serious of the grading etc…

By: Mike F

Mike F — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 23:38:15 +0000

In Fred’s book it says 4198 should be a double sided DG. Maybe there is a story behind this, maybe it’s especially rare as a one-sided DG.

By: Al

Al — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 22:13:00 +0000

It’s Cohen’s listing. Whatever he says in the listing must be the story.

By: maartenkools

maartenkools — Sat, 04 Feb 2012 19:05:11 +0000

regarding the Hutcherson:.. I thought that a BN lp (after a certain number) with one-side deep groove was suposed to be ALWAYS a second pressing?? Especially after 4150…???somebody got the cohen book nearby?)