Comments on: Soundin’ Off On Some Jazz Vinyl

By: JOK

JOK — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 18:41:09 +0000

All I have to say is thank goodness none of the records on my “want list” are Prestige or Blue Note. I’m usually looking for Pacific, Tampa and Mode. Must be because we see those more frequently on the West Coast than on the East, where Prestige and Blue Note are a bit more prevalent. If I were looking to add Blue Note and Prestige on my want list, I think my want list is going to go unfulfilled.

By: Fredrik

Fredrik — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 17:43:40 +0000

The winner of the 1568 is completely nuts and have paid at least 2500-3000 dollars too much for this record. I would grade the vinyl VG after listening to the sound clip. A crisp, fresh, M- copy of this record with virtually zero noise should fetch maybe 4500-5500 dollars. Some are more conservative than others when it comes to grading, but this is crazy…or insane was the word, I believe.

By: Rich (DG Mono)

Rich (DG Mono) — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 16:32:50 +0000

RE: the Mobley sound clip:
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1. The needle drop is in stereo and the quality of the actual rip is quite poor quality (the mono image is off center and the surface noise is panned hard left and right). That being said, surface noise will be less noticeable in true mono, but IMO for this record it takes it out of the ranks of VG++.
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2. There does seem to be a tinge of groove wear on the louder horn blasts, which accordingly to my perhaps more conservative and strict grading standards puts it in the category of a strong VG.
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IMO, an honest seller will not use a sliding scale depending on the vintage and rarity of a record. But I have learned to stay away from VG+ for this very reason; more liberal graders will place records that I really think are VG in this category.
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As for this record graded VG++? Regardless of how much I paid for it, nope, going back. Smart collectors consider the potential resale value of what they buy if they grade honestly when they bid. (That’s a whole other story for another time, how when people buy records that are overgraded and go to resell them, they are more likely to overgrade the record again, thus repeating a vicious cycle of overgrading.)

By: Earl

Earl — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 03:09:30 +0000

I have three minds about that – (1) CRAZY!!!, (2) every idiotic new bid out there makes my collection worth more, and (3) chance of my getting hold of some of my life’s desires is basically out the window

By: Ng Chee Kia

Ng Chee Kia — Mon, 10 Mar 2014 02:19:07 +0000

Hank Mobley 1568, final price $5223.00. Hasn’t this broken the record?

By: Gregory The Fish

Gregory The Fish — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 23:38:42 +0000

well, it’ll be the third highest price for 1568 ever in the price guide. damn!

By: gandi

gandi — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 22:45:46 +0000

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By: alwaysanalog

alwaysanalog — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 22:20:37 +0000

I have some original pressing Prestige LPs that play with much more surface noise than that 1568. And these are albums that are NM and either never been played or seldom played. That recycled vinyl stock that Bob Weinstock used and all to save money.

Trying to find vinyl that plays CD quiet will be a maddening quest for anyone that has been collecting for more than a few years. It’s simply not possible with some labels, albums, etc. Blue Note fans are lucky in that Lion/Wolff were perfectionists in all areas.

By: ceedee

ceedee — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 21:22:06 +0000

That’s “insight”,folks(oops).

By: ceedee

ceedee — Sun, 09 Mar 2014 21:20:56 +0000

Following Al’s insught in the recent “Sanity and Insanity” column,I will temper my comments re:prices. Whether 3K or $600,the winning bids are out of my price range. It would be nice to make those kind of bids when warranted,but like the saying goes,”I would if I could,but I can’t…so I shan’t!”