Comments on: Temptation, Thy Name is Blue Note

By: B. Walter

B. Walter — Sun, 20 Dec 2015 17:55:09 +0000

This sold for $1736. That’s over $43 per lp. Many of these look horrible. I think the seller got a great deal here. My sympathies go out to the buyer.

By: Don kuhlman

Don kuhlman — Thu, 10 Dec 2015 04:37:33 +0000

Jupiter seems appropriate given your fondness for Sun Ra! Will be in touch.

By: lennib

lennib — Thu, 10 Dec 2015 03:29:35 +0000

Don Kuhlman, what a treat to hear from a customer!! Been a long time gone, store closed in 97 and I moved a bit, now in Jupiter (Florida). Heard that Docs and Ribs were gone, along with Harper Court. Talked with lady who now runs what was Boyajian’s Bazaar and she said folks still inquire about the store.
Lost track of DQ. I’m at lennibukowski@aol.com if you ever want to email and we can take this somewhat private memory discussion off this site.
Thanks for coming into the store.

By: Don kuhlman

Don kuhlman — Fri, 04 Dec 2015 07:32:14 +0000

Lenny! I was a frequent flyer at your store both when you owned it and when it was in the hands of the previous owner( DQ). I was fortunate enough to get quite a few of those “blems” many of which I still number among my most cherished possessions ( including a very clean saxophone Colossus which still looks vg+ to me for 3.99!). Most sound great on my table and I play many of them all the time. I still fondly recall the days when I could snag a bunch of records for about $60-70, then head over to ribs n bibs or Docs ( both sadly gone now) and look over my finds while having lunch. When I see the prices these things go for now it breaks my heart. Hope you’re doing well. Just wanted to say thanks…..

By: Mike C

Mike C — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 18:10:36 +0000

Realistically a lot of great records come out of dead guys basements. Some are just stored better than others

By: DaveS

DaveS — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 16:19:58 +0000

A general rule of thumb I think is that 50% of the value is the cover and 50% the record. That being said, I think people would prefer a more playable record to a nicer cover (can’t play a cover). A strategy that I have adopted, not always to success, has been to buy VG+ or VG and hope to get a better match in the future. In other words, I might step down a grade if the price is right and look to find the mirror in the future that allows me to upgrade. Maybe buy a VG cover with a VG+ record and then look for a better cover. This approach while it can be successful has stuck me with a lot of sub-standard duplicates that I don’t know what to do with. It might have been a less expensive route to go but hard to gauge.

The above only applies to same pressing comparisons. I would prefer a lower grade true first pressing to a higher grader second pressing, but that is just me. Some folks just want the music on as close to first pressing as possible (e.g., they are OK with a Bergenfield and will not pay much of a premium for a 50th st. NYC). That being said, there are no hard and fast rules. Many on this site are very exacting in their record grading and want as pristine a copey as possible, knowing that they will always be rare and collectible. I personally have valued quantity over quality and am reluctant to spend big money for a NM- copy regardless, probably because I am one bad needle drop away from taking the value way down.

By: Daryl

Daryl — Mon, 30 Nov 2015 00:34:14 +0000

Interesting that I saw this lot as an outcome on Collectorsfrenzy prior to seeing the conversation on JC. It sparked some meaningful questions, I think, that may be worth the enlightened JC family’s commentary, especially as you rarely discuss the variables at work in the below VG+ world. What are they? What is an original Blue Note cover worth apart from decent vinyl? What is VG+ vinyl worth when paired with a VG- cover? How do you experts (really) distinguish between a deep groove VG and a non- deep groove VG? I greatly appreciate the thoughts of veteran collectors.

By: Alunsevern

Alunsevern — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:35:57 +0000

…from *a* dead person’s basement.

By: Alunsevern

Alunsevern — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 21:34:53 +0000

This is frankly depressing. Trashed records, rotting, flaking sleeves….and the price climbing up to nearly two thousand dollars. It defeats understanding. I wouldn’t even buy them if they were a job lot in a thrift store. They look like records from dead person’s basement.

By: Al

Al — Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:10:18 +0000

After one more look over the records, it was pretty clear to me that this was NOT something I’d be interested in. One of he main reasons is articulated by Jim R above — if the records and moldy and they smell, I don’t want the in my house, let along on my shelves alongside my other records. So we’ll keep an eye on these anyway, and perhaps the winning bidder will be a Jazz Collector reader and will share the final results.