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		By: goldenears		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[goldenears]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2017 16:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[collecting can have an investment angle.  but the arrival of the microgroove lp in 1949, as a new standard, heralded, for the first ime, a relatively high-quality means of storing,distributing music, and listening (assuming good-grade contemporary pick-ups - equipment used.- FOR THE FIRST TIME.  that it con-incided with post-war II primarily upbeat, new sounds provided by composers/performers whose artistry not equalled before or since.I rather think that the cd wil lcome to be valued almost as much - the last physical format of consequence.

once the streaming industry has complete control, despite competition between &#039;players&#039;, the cost of music will escalate.  making the LP and CD even more attractive to some. the abysmal mp3 formats, which have become the defacto standard, destroying the magic of van gelder&#039;s efforts and others. as long as archiving of master recordings are held both in analog and hi-bit depth,high sampling digital.  there is hope. I am keeping my lps, making convenient digital copies....just in case ;)-. Iam not alone.born in 1950, I diid not start collecting until 1999 - prices were reasonable, unlike new lp prices in my youth - beyond my means.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>collecting can have an investment angle.  but the arrival of the microgroove lp in 1949, as a new standard, heralded, for the first ime, a relatively high-quality means of storing,distributing music, and listening (assuming good-grade contemporary pick-ups &#8211; equipment used.- FOR THE FIRST TIME.  that it con-incided with post-war II primarily upbeat, new sounds provided by composers/performers whose artistry not equalled before or since.I rather think that the cd wil lcome to be valued almost as much &#8211; the last physical format of consequence.</p>
<p>once the streaming industry has complete control, despite competition between &#8216;players&#8217;, the cost of music will escalate.  making the LP and CD even more attractive to some. the abysmal mp3 formats, which have become the defacto standard, destroying the magic of van gelder&#8217;s efforts and others. as long as archiving of master recordings are held both in analog and hi-bit depth,high sampling digital.  there is hope. I am keeping my lps, making convenient digital copies&#8230;.just in case ;)-. Iam not alone.born in 1950, I diid not start collecting until 1999 &#8211; prices were reasonable, unlike new lp prices in my youth &#8211; beyond my means.</p>
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		By: Mattyman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mattyman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Jan 2014 09:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Off topic, but in reference to our earlier debates about the rise of United Artists/Blue Note reissues: I was watching three gems that I wanted to have. 
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As to be expected I won none of them. All three copies on my watch list fetched &lt;a href=&quot;https://plus.google.com/photos/104947545955836379124/albums/5968303342963358785?authkey=CLOI2fHov4L4YQ&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;top dollar&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;... :-(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off topic, but in reference to our earlier debates about the rise of United Artists/Blue Note reissues: I was watching three gems that I wanted to have.<br />
&#8211;<br />
As to be expected I won none of them. All three copies on my watch list fetched <a href="https://plus.google.com/photos/104947545955836379124/albums/5968303342963358785?authkey=CLOI2fHov4L4YQ" rel="nofollow"><b>top dollar</b></a>&#8230; 🙁</p>
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		By: JOK		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JOK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 20:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Regarding the Carlos Vidal Tampa TP-32.  I have now read two separate sources that say the TP-32 is an original and the RS-1000 is a re-issue.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding the Carlos Vidal Tampa TP-32.  I have now read two separate sources that say the TP-32 is an original and the RS-1000 is a re-issue.</p>
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		By: Vinylzone		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vinylzone]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 15:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I do for the most part agree with Don, except for the bit about coin collecting! The number of active coin collectors still far outweigh the number of jazz record collectors, and I know this, because I am both! :-)

A Coin, is also a cultural and an historic artifact from a certain period in human history, and it does provide a physical contact with that particular period in a similar way a first pressing does (but without the nice music of course!). I do prefer jazz records collecting though!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do for the most part agree with Don, except for the bit about coin collecting! The number of active coin collectors still far outweigh the number of jazz record collectors, and I know this, because I am both! 🙂</p>
<p>A Coin, is also a cultural and an historic artifact from a certain period in human history, and it does provide a physical contact with that particular period in a similar way a first pressing does (but without the nice music of course!). I do prefer jazz records collecting though!</p>
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		By: DG Mono		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DG Mono]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 04:48:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Don, I concur: you make great points. Record collecting could very well be likened to stamp or coin collecting--it may fall out of fashion at some point. But I dunno, records are preeetty cool in comparison to some boring old stamps and coins haha ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don, I concur: you make great points. Record collecting could very well be likened to stamp or coin collecting&#8211;it may fall out of fashion at some point. But I dunno, records are preeetty cool in comparison to some boring old stamps and coins haha 😉</p>
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		By: Joe L		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe L]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jan 2014 03:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[don-lucky - very well said.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>don-lucky &#8211; very well said.</p>
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		By: don-lucky		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[don-lucky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 23:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[...This is one of my favorite topics here in the Jazz Collective as it really delves into the core reason for why each of us collect Jazz vinyl. More often than not, it’s that quest for that next big score, or the hunt for that rare missing side from our collections that will continually spur us on down the road. Then there is that plethora of “new-old” music for each of us to re-discover that can only be found on vinyl these days. The fact that prices are consistantly on the rise only helps justify our passion wives and friends, even if we never really intend to sell. 


There is no doubt that the Lp market is making a comeback as succeeding generations begin to search for a more tactile connection to their music with more current formats (and even their retail counterparts) becoming increasingly obsolete in the age of “instant online gratification”.  Not to mention the fact that there is now more competition than ever before for a very limited supply of original vinyl thanks to the internet opening up the market to an entire world of collectors in the last few decades.

Personally, I think there will always be a demand for our treasured Jazz ephemera to some degree but it will naturally recede with time. It is just the nature of our own evolution that what is fashionable or collectable today won’t necessarily be in the future.  I suspect we will probably hit the high water mark in the next few decades as a new generation raised by technology is left with the stewardship (or burden) of dealing with our own collections, in the same way we have inherited our parents treasures and liquidate in favour of a clean basement and a college fund for the kids. For the most part, we have outgrown the stamp, coin and card collections of past generations, and found our own passions, as will future generations. That being said, there will always be those few “old souls” in the world (like us here in the JC) who still long for the days gone by, and want to re-connect with the music in a way that only the thrill of a first pressing can provide.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;This is one of my favorite topics here in the Jazz Collective as it really delves into the core reason for why each of us collect Jazz vinyl. More often than not, it’s that quest for that next big score, or the hunt for that rare missing side from our collections that will continually spur us on down the road. Then there is that plethora of “new-old” music for each of us to re-discover that can only be found on vinyl these days. The fact that prices are consistantly on the rise only helps justify our passion wives and friends, even if we never really intend to sell. </p>
<p>There is no doubt that the Lp market is making a comeback as succeeding generations begin to search for a more tactile connection to their music with more current formats (and even their retail counterparts) becoming increasingly obsolete in the age of “instant online gratification”.  Not to mention the fact that there is now more competition than ever before for a very limited supply of original vinyl thanks to the internet opening up the market to an entire world of collectors in the last few decades.</p>
<p>Personally, I think there will always be a demand for our treasured Jazz ephemera to some degree but it will naturally recede with time. It is just the nature of our own evolution that what is fashionable or collectable today won’t necessarily be in the future.  I suspect we will probably hit the high water mark in the next few decades as a new generation raised by technology is left with the stewardship (or burden) of dealing with our own collections, in the same way we have inherited our parents treasures and liquidate in favour of a clean basement and a college fund for the kids. For the most part, we have outgrown the stamp, coin and card collections of past generations, and found our own passions, as will future generations. That being said, there will always be those few “old souls” in the world (like us here in the JC) who still long for the days gone by, and want to re-connect with the music in a way that only the thrill of a first pressing can provide.</p>
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		By: JOK		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JOK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 22:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am hoping someone knows something about these old Tampa labels.  I bought a copy of Carlos Vidal&#039;s &quot;Congo Drums&quot; yesterday.  According to Tampa Records Listings (http://jazzdiscography.com/Labels/tampa.htm), Carlos Vidal&#039;s &quot;Congo Drums&quot; is noted as RS-1000 from the RS series.  According to this list, there is no Tampa TP-32, which is what the Carlos Vidal record I purchased is labeled.  I have looked up other copies on Ebay, and they are all RS-1000 and have a brighter cover than the copy I have.  Does anyone know if this is an error copy, or one that is rare?   The cover is in good shape, and the record looks good, but alas, someone must have used an inferior stylus on it because there are a lot of snaps and hum on the record itself.   This is my 5th Tampa record and I may just look at trying to get the whole catalog (which is not that extensive). 
Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am hoping someone knows something about these old Tampa labels.  I bought a copy of Carlos Vidal&#8217;s &#8220;Congo Drums&#8221; yesterday.  According to Tampa Records Listings (<a href="http://jazzdiscography.com/Labels/tampa.htm" rel="nofollow ugc">http://jazzdiscography.com/Labels/tampa.htm</a>), Carlos Vidal&#8217;s &#8220;Congo Drums&#8221; is noted as RS-1000 from the RS series.  According to this list, there is no Tampa TP-32, which is what the Carlos Vidal record I purchased is labeled.  I have looked up other copies on Ebay, and they are all RS-1000 and have a brighter cover than the copy I have.  Does anyone know if this is an error copy, or one that is rare?   The cover is in good shape, and the record looks good, but alas, someone must have used an inferior stylus on it because there are a lot of snaps and hum on the record itself.   This is my 5th Tampa record and I may just look at trying to get the whole catalog (which is not that extensive).<br />
Thanks.</p>
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		By: Fredrik		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fredrik]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 18:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m 37 years old. I love collecting jazz. Only originals. 1st pressings. I&#039;m willing to spend a lot of money on these rarities that I love so much. I&#039;m sure there will be other 37 year old collectors 10, 20, 30 years from now, wanting these rarities as much as I do now. Therefore I think the prices will continue to be high for the real gems. People will always discover music of old and be drawn to it. Collecting it. So, even if there are lot of older collectors right now, I too will be an old collector and there will be other, younger guys like I am now, who will want the reords I want and drive up the prices in the future. But like I&#039;ve said before.. I don&#039;t care if the records will increase in value. I will don&#039;t buy this stuff for an investment. I buy it for me to enjoy for the rest of my life. I will never sell any of my records. Ever.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 37 years old. I love collecting jazz. Only originals. 1st pressings. I&#8217;m willing to spend a lot of money on these rarities that I love so much. I&#8217;m sure there will be other 37 year old collectors 10, 20, 30 years from now, wanting these rarities as much as I do now. Therefore I think the prices will continue to be high for the real gems. People will always discover music of old and be drawn to it. Collecting it. So, even if there are lot of older collectors right now, I too will be an old collector and there will be other, younger guys like I am now, who will want the reords I want and drive up the prices in the future. But like I&#8217;ve said before.. I don&#8217;t care if the records will increase in value. I will don&#8217;t buy this stuff for an investment. I buy it for me to enjoy for the rest of my life. I will never sell any of my records. Ever.</p>
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		By: Michel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 15:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t really care whether my precious jazz collection will increase in value or not. If it increases, i will have made a good investment. And if it decreases i  will be able to buy more titles i&#039;m missing. In both cases, it&#039;s all right to me. 

All i know, is even if mr SH and his acolytes at Music Matters records   are  valued 4 k in the future, i will never buy anything from these arrogant know it all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t really care whether my precious jazz collection will increase in value or not. If it increases, i will have made a good investment. And if it decreases i  will be able to buy more titles i&#8217;m missing. In both cases, it&#8217;s all right to me. </p>
<p>All i know, is even if mr SH and his acolytes at Music Matters records   are  valued 4 k in the future, i will never buy anything from these arrogant know it all.</p>
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