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		By: Mac		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2021 20:43:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[When I see the kind of foxing (age spots) on the Henderson back cover, I always wonder if humidity/dampness  and mold were a factor.  I stay away from covers that have that type of discoloration ... too high a risk.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I see the kind of foxing (age spots) on the Henderson back cover, I always wonder if humidity/dampness  and mold were a factor.  I stay away from covers that have that type of discoloration &#8230; too high a risk.</p>
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		By: Terryfromflorida		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2021 17:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Bill: you are correct that there is no agreed upon standard between ebay and discogs which further supports the need for unbiased third party grading.  This problem is caused primarily by sellers trying to squeeze an extra inch out of an lp&#039;s grade. It isn&#039;t that sellers aren&#039;t familiar with Goldmine, they just play dumb or ignore it when it&#039;s convenient.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill: you are correct that there is no agreed upon standard between ebay and discogs which further supports the need for unbiased third party grading.  This problem is caused primarily by sellers trying to squeeze an extra inch out of an lp&#8217;s grade. It isn&#8217;t that sellers aren&#8217;t familiar with Goldmine, they just play dumb or ignore it when it&#8217;s convenient.</p>
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		By: bill		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2021 16:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Terry, we don&#039;t even have an agreed upon standard of grading between eBay and Goldmine/Discogs. eBay uses VG++/Excellent while Goldmine does not. I think a lot of the confusion over what is VG+ stems directly from this. Yes Al pictures are worth 1000 words but they have to be in focus.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry, we don&#8217;t even have an agreed upon standard of grading between eBay and Goldmine/Discogs. eBay uses VG++/Excellent while Goldmine does not. I think a lot of the confusion over what is VG+ stems directly from this. Yes Al pictures are worth 1000 words but they have to be in focus.</p>
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		By: Al		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2021 12:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Japhy -- no amen from me. I have higher expectations for a cover graded in VG+ condition. It&#039;s good that sellers typically include several pictures so VG or VG+ can be determined in the eye of the beholder and not just based on the seller&#039;s description.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Japhy &#8212; no amen from me. I have higher expectations for a cover graded in VG+ condition. It&#8217;s good that sellers typically include several pictures so VG or VG+ can be determined in the eye of the beholder and not just based on the seller&#8217;s description.</p>
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		By: Terryfromflorida		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2021 11:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have mentioned this before but feel it is appropriate in this discussion to mention it again: The primary force holding the value of rare jazz vinyl back compared to sports cards and other collectibles is the lack of a grading authentication system like PSA. The implementation of such a system would increase the values exponentially. The majority of lp&#039;s listed on ebay are overgraded. A third party system would eliminate that and give buyers peace of mind that they lp they purchase meets a set group of criteria for that grade. A numerical grading system is also easier to interpret for the average individual. The notion that we should broaden the current grading standards is absurd. No one benefits from that other than sellers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have mentioned this before but feel it is appropriate in this discussion to mention it again: The primary force holding the value of rare jazz vinyl back compared to sports cards and other collectibles is the lack of a grading authentication system like PSA. The implementation of such a system would increase the values exponentially. The majority of lp&#8217;s listed on ebay are overgraded. A third party system would eliminate that and give buyers peace of mind that they lp they purchase meets a set group of criteria for that grade. A numerical grading system is also easier to interpret for the average individual. The notion that we should broaden the current grading standards is absurd. No one benefits from that other than sellers.</p>
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		By: vinylvato		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2021 05:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I tend to agree with japhy. The back of the Henderson cover certainly isn&#039;t NM, but doesn&#039;t look much worse than the Phil Woods lp from a couple posts back. Both have some yellowing and wear to the printed text.

Instead of broadening VG+, I&#039;d love to bump up VG a bit. (Not realistically going to happen, I know). VG+ for records played infrequently and carefully, VG for records played more often, but still carefully, G for &quot;averagely&quot; played records, F for records that suffered a few mishaps, but still with retrievable music, and P for records played by badgers in a chicken coop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to agree with japhy. The back of the Henderson cover certainly isn&#8217;t NM, but doesn&#8217;t look much worse than the Phil Woods lp from a couple posts back. Both have some yellowing and wear to the printed text.</p>
<p>Instead of broadening VG+, I&#8217;d love to bump up VG a bit. (Not realistically going to happen, I know). VG+ for records played infrequently and carefully, VG for records played more often, but still carefully, G for &#8220;averagely&#8221; played records, F for records that suffered a few mishaps, but still with retrievable music, and P for records played by badgers in a chicken coop.</p>
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		By: vinylvato		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2021 00:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m inclined to agree with japhy as well. The Henderson cover actually doesn&#039;t look that much worse to me than the Phil Woods cover from a couple posts back. Both have a little wear on the back but haven&#039;t been abused. 

I guess ideally I&#039;d love common usage of the VG grade to step up a bit to cover a some of the VG+ range, but I don&#039;t see that realistically happening.  So VG+ (for cover and record) might reflect careful usage, VG careful but frequent usage, G &quot;normal&quot; usage, F damaged but not irredeemable, and P played by raccoons and stored in a chicken coop.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m inclined to agree with japhy as well. The Henderson cover actually doesn&#8217;t look that much worse to me than the Phil Woods cover from a couple posts back. Both have a little wear on the back but haven&#8217;t been abused. </p>
<p>I guess ideally I&#8217;d love common usage of the VG grade to step up a bit to cover a some of the VG+ range, but I don&#8217;t see that realistically happening.  So VG+ (for cover and record) might reflect careful usage, VG careful but frequent usage, G &#8220;normal&#8221; usage, F damaged but not irredeemable, and P played by raccoons and stored in a chicken coop.</p>
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		By: bill		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2021 22:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amen]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2021 21:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Aside from boredom there may be a few other factors at work; namely Youtube, Instagram, and the perception that the American dollar may someday soon become worthless.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from boredom there may be a few other factors at work; namely Youtube, Instagram, and the perception that the American dollar may someday soon become worthless.</p>
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		By: japhy		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2021 19:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that Henderson cover is over-graded at all; I think most collectors would call that VG+. There are no splits, the spine is fully intact and legible, the top corners look pretty good and the bottoms only mildly rubbed, the front is clean, and the spotting and light soiling on the back (even a couple small chips) seem pretty acceptable for a piece of cardboard that&#039;s almost 60 years old!  

As these items get older and older and more and more scarce, I feel like the mid-grade category definitions need to broaden a little, while what falls into VG++/NM- and above tightens even more to recognize only the crème de la crème. There are already so few pristine items left in circulation that those deserving of a coveted NM- or better grade are going to receive it indisputably. But the VG+ range should, in this collector&#039;s opinion, broaden a little to acknowledge that anything below NM- is simply going to have some imperfections -- even if it&#039;s simple science, like old paper turns yellow and starts to split -- but that doesn&#039;t mean it&#039;s a hunk of junk. It&#039;s still pretty darn impressive for something that&#039;s 60 or 70 years old and was created to be held, handled, and played and not hung on the wall like a painting.  

Do I get any &quot;Amens&quot; from the congregation?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that Henderson cover is over-graded at all; I think most collectors would call that VG+. There are no splits, the spine is fully intact and legible, the top corners look pretty good and the bottoms only mildly rubbed, the front is clean, and the spotting and light soiling on the back (even a couple small chips) seem pretty acceptable for a piece of cardboard that&#8217;s almost 60 years old!  </p>
<p>As these items get older and older and more and more scarce, I feel like the mid-grade category definitions need to broaden a little, while what falls into VG++/NM- and above tightens even more to recognize only the crème de la crème. There are already so few pristine items left in circulation that those deserving of a coveted NM- or better grade are going to receive it indisputably. But the VG+ range should, in this collector&#8217;s opinion, broaden a little to acknowledge that anything below NM- is simply going to have some imperfections &#8212; even if it&#8217;s simple science, like old paper turns yellow and starts to split &#8212; but that doesn&#8217;t mean it&#8217;s a hunk of junk. It&#8217;s still pretty darn impressive for something that&#8217;s 60 or 70 years old and was created to be held, handled, and played and not hung on the wall like a painting.  </p>
<p>Do I get any &#8220;Amens&#8221; from the congregation?</p>
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