Comments on: Tracking Some Original (And Not) Jazz Vinyl https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/tracking-some-original-and-not-jazz-vinyl/ For those who love jazz Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:05:39 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: dottorjazz https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/tracking-some-original-and-not-jazz-vinyl/comment-page-1/#comment-249697 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 08:05:39 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=4145#comment-249697 thanks Big Bear: there were some errors in what I recorded before.

]]> By: BigBear https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/tracking-some-original-and-not-jazz-vinyl/comment-page-1/#comment-249645 Thu, 23 Feb 2012 02:48:48 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=4145#comment-249645 I’ve never seen a Lex cover for 1542.

This link is to a Jazz Record Center listing from 2009

http://www.popsike.com/php/detaildatar.php?itemnr=300307699316

In it, Fred states that

“….The original non-laminated frame cover has the West 63rd Street address (original covers for BLP 1542 were never printed with a Lexington Avenue address)…. “

]]> By: dottorjazz https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/tracking-some-original-and-not-jazz-vinyl/comment-page-1/#comment-249581 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:53:51 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=4145#comment-249581 thanks: my confusion begun with the discussion I copy and paste:

“I have a copy of 1542 which I consider to be an authentic first pressing (flat edge, the typical deep groove; cover Lex Ave address, framed cover, thin spine) but the address on the labels is 47 W 63rd NY 23, not Lex Ave!
Now to continue on 1542: I have another one with 47 W 63rd NYC labels, DG less deep, with a thicker spine, no kakubuchi and 47 W 63rd address on the cover. Also the cover is different: the yellow band and Rollins’ picture are horizontal, not vertical. This is definitely a second pressing
The 1542 you have is the original, Rudolf, you are right. Original issues feature a mix of NY23labels and Lex cover ! Very rare…”
-2 “I’ve seen sellers on eBay list Sonny Rollins Volume 1, Blue Note 1542, as a West 63rd Street original when I have a Lexington Avenue copy on my shelf.”

I have read and reread but it seems to exist a Lex cover for 1542 which I’m still looking for confirmation.

]]> By: BigBear https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/tracking-some-original-and-not-jazz-vinyl/comment-page-1/#comment-249517 Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:46:06 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=4145#comment-249517 I have Lex labels, W63 cover. This is consistent with Fred C’s book.

I believe that Rudolf has stated that he has a W63rd label with W63rd cover that he considers a first…this may be what you are remembering, DoctorJ?

]]> By: DaveS https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/tracking-some-original-and-not-jazz-vinyl/comment-page-1/#comment-249491 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:25:29 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=4145#comment-249491 Me too. 63rd Street NYC 23 back cover address

]]> By: Al https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/tracking-some-original-and-not-jazz-vinyl/comment-page-1/#comment-249473 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:03:38 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=4145#comment-249473 I have the Rollins, Lexington Avenue labels, West 63rd cover.

]]> By: dottorjazz https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/tracking-some-original-and-not-jazz-vinyl/comment-page-1/#comment-249472 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:31:05 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=4145#comment-249472 blue note deep groove war!
4058, H Mobley Roll Call, is the last double deep groove in continuos sequence.
until here there seems to be no questions.
we must remember that numbers up to 4058 have been reprinted with different details, one sided dg or no dg. Jackie’s Bag must have double dg to be first, so I’m with Al.
problems arise after 4058 and, as we have seen, we don’t have the right answer yet.
let me please ask again about a Rollins cover, 1542, as I’m still confused.
record Lex, cover W63: I’m sure to have read here in jazz Collector someone stating his copy had a Lex cover.
I’ve never seen but it should be: can anyone confirm the existence of a 1542 Lex cover, please?
thanks

]]> By: Katharsis https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/tracking-some-original-and-not-jazz-vinyl/comment-page-1/#comment-249445 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:47:26 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=4145#comment-249445 A quick look at the discography gave me the information, that Authentic was a budget subsidiary of Dootone.
So I would think of this auction as having an original Dootone-LP, combinde with a later Authentic jacket. A mixed bag then.

]]> By: Katharsis https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/tracking-some-original-and-not-jazz-vinyl/comment-page-1/#comment-249444 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:43:40 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=4145#comment-249444 The Dexter Gordon record is clearly an original but no first pressing. As Al stated, an original pressing should have a bright red vinyl. This record as well has a later cover and I’m really concerned about the “AUL”. Clearly, an original cover should only have Dootone.
I once had this great record, one of the more “drug-enhanced” sessions.

]]> By: Mattyman https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/tracking-some-original-and-not-jazz-vinyl/comment-page-1/#comment-249442 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 09:53:21 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=4145#comment-249442 According to Dottorjazz’s Blue Note Illustrated, an original pressing (let’s say 1st) of Jackie’s Bag can have deep grooves on both side or no deep grooves. Dottore, if you’re reading along here, please give us your comments on this one 😉

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