Comments on: Twelve Tips To Collecting Blue Note

By: Michael Walmsley

Michael Walmsley — Tue, 05 Oct 2021 19:13:54 +0000

Thank you for the swift response. I am sorry I should have mentioned the labels are all “47 West 63rd NYC” including the side 1 label underneath the other one. The provenance of the pressing wasn’t in question as I know my dad got this in 1960 – a first pressing. Back cover address is 43 West 61st St., New York 23. Thanks again for your insight.

By: Al

Al — Tue, 05 Oct 2021 10:14:19 +0000

Michael — the primary factor is: What address is on the label. If it is West 63rd, I would think the double label wouldn’t affect the value. My experience is that when there are flaws, if they do have an affect, it would tend to be negative rather than positive.

By: Michael Walmsley

Michael Walmsley — Mon, 04 Oct 2021 20:48:09 +0000

I have a mono first pressing of Art Taylor’s AT’s Delight (RVG, Plastylite in runouts, Deep Groove – both sides). Side one has an extra label on top of another, both for this record. Part of the top label is slightly lifted and you can see the same label below. I consider this a “factory defect” although it has no effect on the quality of the record. Does this “double label” affect the value of the record as a rule?

By: Bob Perry

Bob Perry — Thu, 01 Feb 2018 17:19:26 +0000

I have an Art Blakey 4003 DG Ear P No Inc and R on side 1 and no R on side 2? Is this still a first anyone?

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 16:27:41 +0000

Interesting info thanks for sharing

By: Larry the Plastylite Guy

Larry the Plastylite Guy — Fri, 10 Mar 2017 14:47:55 +0000

Don’t know where you get your info. from, but the “deep groove” vs “no groove” is ALL B.S….And Plastylite buying “new” equipment??? NOPE!! (and using “new” equip. on one side and not the other…???…no idea what that’s even supposed to mean…More B.S.) …Generally speaking, a new, or newer stamper has its center retaining ring/lip intact, and a well-used stamper may not have its ring there, it being removed after splitting away from the stamper, with a different center retaining die being used (giving a deep groove, or a 2 7/8-inch or so depressed area in the label.) The center stamper retaining ring/lip could fail early, later, or never at all. On MANY occasions one stamper (on the same run) would have its ring there, and the other would be missing. There’s no way to tell by groove/no groove if a record was a “first pressing” [whatever that is supposed to be] or not. (I pressed at Plastylite from ’64 to ’66, my brother was there ’61 to ’62.)

By: Wayne

Wayne — Thu, 22 Oct 2015 00:27:16 +0000

I have lp with RVG stamped, but no “ear”. Confused if stamped stopped in 1961, but ear used until 1966, any info would help. Thanks

By: Drew

Drew — Mon, 02 Sep 2013 12:17:20 +0000

To answer my own question about when the RVG in the dead wax was changed, I consulted a number of different sources and found out some tentative conclusions. RVG cursive style was used up until about 1957, not in 1958 and after. From 1958 to 1961 the RVG stamp was used. From 1962 on the “VANGELDER” stamp was used. Of course there would have been some overlap with using already pressed records with the previous style, but this is what I found. Anybody have any comments?

By: Aaron

Aaron — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 16:17:30 +0000

No much earlier, anyone know which title was the first with VAN GELDER vs. RVG? Also when he went from an hand-etched RVG to machine stamped RVG?

By: Drew

Drew — Wed, 28 Aug 2013 12:48:35 +0000

What about the RVG vs. “Vangelder” in the dead wax? Was that change made when Liberty took over Blue Note?