Updating the $1,000 Bin
What have we been watching lately on eBay? Let’s look at some records for the $1,000 bin:
Sonny Clark, Cool Struttin’, Blue Note 1588. This was an original pressing sold by Atomic Records. The record looked to be VG+ or VG++ and the cover was listed as VG+. The pictures were nice and clear, so perhaps that helped in getting a high bid. This one sold for $2,280.55.
Hank Mobley, Blue Note 1568. This was an original pressing sold by my friend Steve at Round Again records in Providence. The record was in M- condition and the cover was VG. The price was $1,936.88.
John Coltrane, Coltrane, Prestige 7105. This was an original yellow label New York pressing sold by our other friends at Music Matters. It was in M- condition and sold for $1,280.55, definitely a high-water mark for this LP on Jazz Collector.
This one was from our friends at the Jazz Record Center:
Cannonball Adderley, Somethin’ Else, Blue Note 1595. This is the one that’s had a lot of discussion on the site because of the sans serif typeface. It was in M- condition for the record and probably VG++ for the cover and sold for $1,175.
Not sure we’ve ever seen this one in the $1,000 bin before: Hank Mobley, No Room For Squares, Blue Note 4149. This was an original pressing in M- condition. The seller, the reliable roverd-90 described this as one of the greatest jazz LPs ever. Quite high praise. I haven’t listened to this record in years, so I’ll have to put it on the turntable later and see if I agree. This one sold for $1,009.
just wanted the 100 th commentary.:-)
@London Calling: Thank you, that’s my observation as well. The transition from “RVG” to “VAN GELDER” must have happened somewhere between 4090 and 4096 – as far as I can tell from my originals from this period.
MICHEL, CONGRETULATIONS!!!!!!!
@Don-Lucky: since we’re talking details anyway, can you please tell some more about that Sonny Clark that went for more than 2,000 bucks but happened to have the “R” of registered trademark under the E on side two? What does this tell us about this 1588 pressing (1st, 2nd, 3rd?) and what do you think it is actually worth, now the “R” has been established? As always I love to hear the story here, because ‘us rookies’ only learn from it, especially since the whole idea of a time line is still keeping us all busy 😉 (P.S: the one that paid the 2,000 bucks for the Sonny Clark, would he be able to get his money back from seller Atomic Records if he finds out about the “R”? After all, in their description they’re advertising it as a “holy grail”!)
I think it’s sticky territory getting your money back for something that was visible on the picture. Atomic Records are very reasonable, if you don’t agree with there grade they will give you your money back but the “r” should have been caught by whomever spent the 2 grand(although I didn’t notice it). I would be real upset right now if I found this out.
The solution is: blue ink! 🙂
Popsike Data:
I ran some sample queries:
How can we intelligently use this to gauge BN scarcity/run size?
Median Mean Low High Count* Comment
1501 154 299 51 1007 12 “lex”
1568 1642 1854 27 5360 40
1577 262 368 35 1843 180
1578 370 408 27 1404 52
1579 601 657 25 1626 31
1580 626 614 25 1875 28
1581 209 231 23 641 65
1582 714 757 24 2303 24
1583 402 389 38 1467 31
1584 480 580 24 1514 28
4001 263 291 33 1260 58
4003 94 131 25 599 102
4050 37 57 28 314 12
4075 191 195 34 363 19
84075 100 100 77 128 2
4137 98 109 54 203 9
84137 55 62 25 130 6
4153 153 193 41 549 14
84153 37 60 24 161 6
4185 75 99 27 334 21
84185 81 142 30 315 3
4200 53 53 53 53 1
*Popsike typically only tracks transactions greater than USD $30
Sorry for the formatting. The first number is the catalog number.
Search was just “blue note XXXX” or in the case of the Miles Davis 1501, I wanted to see if changing it to “blue note 1501 lex” got a better set of data, which I think it did.
In the (unlikely event) of any further interest Ive put up a screen cap of Version 2 Guide to BN 1st Pressings incorporating the collective wisdom of Jazz Collector contributors
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19121992@N00/5283037017/in/set-72157625092205391/
Its so much smarter than my first humble effort, so hats in the air and high fives for the Jazz Collector
I see the topics moved on to Prestige, of which I have few and know less, so I’ll be learning again. I just remember the famed quote – “Whats the difference between Blue Note and Prestige?Two days rehearsal”
LondenCalling: THANKS!!!
This IS “such stuff as dreams are made on”..
great flicr page you have made!
Following unique input from DottorJazz, a much improved Version 3 is now available. Screencapture here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/19121992@N00/5286351616/
Email me at andrewsouthlondon (at) hotmail (dot) co (dot) uk
for a copy if you would like.
London Calling:
I just downloaded your file – this may be the best Christmas present I get this year! I was thinking of doing something exactly like this from the data given above…. thanks very much to everyone and happy holidays.
On to Prestige and others!
London Calling’s efforts with the spreadsheet are most certainly a fabulous and unique gift that money can’t buy! So thank you London Calling!! 🙂
Last but not least I want to wish you all a very merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!! -Mattyman 😀
My thanks for ya’ll as well and all the best wishes for a merry christmas!
May the next year be one of the best (recordwise ;))!
And thanks to Mattyman and his friend Mike for a most welcome “Christmas Gift” – a personal copy of 1568.
Every home should have one. You know it makes sense.
And thanks for the thanks. Its a pleasure, for those that love Jazz.