Comments on: Watching eBay: Blue Train, Sonny Plus Four https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/watching-ebay-blue-train-sonny-plus-four/ For those who love jazz Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:17:42 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Scott Neuman https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/watching-ebay-blue-train-sonny-plus-four/comment-page-1/#comment-15893 Thu, 11 Mar 2010 03:17:42 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=2724#comment-15893 Watching a lot of items that would have sold for us two years ago or a year ago at a premium not going anywhere near those prices. Best of luck to you.
Scott “Forevervinyl” Neuman

]]> By: ceedee https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/watching-ebay-blue-train-sonny-plus-four/comment-page-1/#comment-15523 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 23:26:43 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=2724#comment-15523 Ah,kakubushi-very nice! I always try to have mine with a little red wine,or preferably,the house saki. I know a little place in the village that…say what? Really? It’s a WHAT? Oh…well,never mind then. Carry on!

]]> By: bethellodge https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/watching-ebay-blue-train-sonny-plus-four/comment-page-1/#comment-15516 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:55:29 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=2724#comment-15516 you guys are crazy! I love it!

]]> By: Rudolf https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/watching-ebay-blue-train-sonny-plus-four/comment-page-1/#comment-15513 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:32:46 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=2724#comment-15513 Al: I found the following in my collection:

PRLP 7037 kakubuchi cover
adress cover 446/50
adress labels 446/50
PRLP 7038 laminated cover Hannan
adres cover 447/50
adress labels 446/50
PRLP 7038 laminated (GEM) Hannan
adress cover 447/50
adress labels 446/50
PRLP 7038 Reid Miles white
adress cover 446/50
adress labels Bergenfield
PRLP 7039 kakubushi
adress cover 446/50
adress labels 446/50
My question to you:
what are the resp. adresses on the cover and labels of your kak. 7038?
Also, are the labels similar to the lemon yellow type of your 7028 and 7033 or are they the standard ochre (ocher) yellow of later Prestige?
Thanks for taking the trouble of looking into this.

You have not had big luck with your sale of the Reid Miles. You may have noticed too that BLP 1577 Coltrane at a min. price of ard. 800 has not sold. A reserve price appears better for the seller to obtain bids, than a high starting price.

]]> By: Rudolf https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/watching-ebay-blue-train-sonny-plus-four/comment-page-1/#comment-15511 Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:35:33 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=2724#comment-15511 Al: yesterday we made a major discovery, which, in a way, has changed my “Weltanschauung”.
Having bought around 1957 Prestige # 7038, S.R. + 4, the 2nd LP in my future collection (of which I was not aware yet), it has never occurred to me that there could have been an earlier version, the one you have with kakubushi cover.
I will take the liberty of asking you a few detailed questions in the matter. Reverting within an hour with the questions.
cheers, Rudolf

]]> By: Rudolf https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/watching-ebay-blue-train-sonny-plus-four/comment-page-1/#comment-15487 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:18:13 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=2724#comment-15487 Al: Congratulations! You do have a real first issue. For me this is a very interesting discovery, since I never saw anything else than my own 2 laminated copies.

]]> By: Al https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/watching-ebay-blue-train-sonny-plus-four/comment-page-1/#comment-15486 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 18:58:18 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=2724#comment-15486 Hi, Rudolf. My Sonny Plus Four with the red, white and violet cover is definitely kakubushi. It is the same as the Teddy Charles and the Jon Eardley, it is not laminated, it has no spine, all the characteristics. It is framed exactly like 7028 and 7033.

]]> By: Rudolf https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/watching-ebay-blue-train-sonny-plus-four/comment-page-1/#comment-15484 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:38:49 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=2724#comment-15484 all my Prestige kakubushi covers are unlaminated.

]]> By: Rudolf https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/watching-ebay-blue-train-sonny-plus-four/comment-page-1/#comment-15482 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 17:32:19 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=2724#comment-15482 Al: I should be very cautious, since your copy may be kakubushi after all! Mine are not, but I have kakubushi covers up to and incl. 7041. My 7043 is a review copy, and 1st pressing I presume, and is not kakubushi. I did not check higher up.
But my copies of 7037 and 7039 are kakubushi, so 7038 may have been issued as well with a kakubushi cover.
Now for the characteristics of kakubushi: you should be able to distinguish a sort of a frame under the front paper covering the sleeve, as a result of paper being folded over, but covered in the front. Width in general 1 cm., mostly on 2 sides, top and left, sometimes also bottom side. Never, of course, at the sleeve opening side. I have never seen a broad spine cover with kakubuhi.
Compare your original 7028 and 7033 ( I just had them in my hands, and they are framed )in detail with your 7038: I am very curious if the 3 have the same frames. Plese advise, it would be a discovery.

]]> By: Al https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/watching-ebay-blue-train-sonny-plus-four/comment-page-1/#comment-15481 Wed, 03 Mar 2010 16:33:45 +0000 http://jazzcollector.com/?p=2724#comment-15481 Good luck GW. I hope you win it.
Rucolf — I’m hoping you can educate me. I had thought the red, white and violet cover was kakubushi. It has no spine and it seems to me as if it is framed. I compared it to the Teddy Charles record were were talking about last week and was trying to determine if they were different, but they seem similar. What makes one kakubushi and not the other?

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