Comments on: Albert Ayler, Sun Ra, Milford Graves + More for the $1,000-Up Bin

By: corto maltese

corto maltese — Tue, 05 Apr 2016 12:44:52 +0000

Sean and Clifford: the “reviews insert” came with (most? all?) later copies of the Don Pullen/Milford Graves album (with the golden cover). Maybe Sean’s handpainted cover with the reviews was initially sold by the musicians some time after it was manufactured?

There’s another “insert” which came with the initial handpainted copies: it’s a small mimeographed paper with pricing and ordering information about the original release.

By: Clifford

Clifford — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:05:46 +0000

Indeed they are.

I know that yet another push is being made to properly document the early Saturn catalog on LP in the form of high quality reissues – supposedly with the estate’s cooperation (such as it exists). Scorpio were boots and I think Art Yard and Roaratorio have worked mainly with Marshall Allen rather than the Ra-Abraham end of things. Hopefully it’s above board and works out for all parties, though admittedly it does get confusing trying to separate the legit stuff from the pirated editions.

By: Stefano

Stefano — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 21:25:54 +0000

Mark, you are right, too much money for this copy of Nubians. I admit that I never saw a copy of this record here in Italy. I went through a jazz record collection last year, I bought several Saturns but there were no copy of Nubians and Angels and Demons. Anyway, the Saturn mania is reaching new highs

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 20:15:04 +0000

I’m after “Nubians” myself but am not willing to spend big bucks for a flawed copy. Makes me regret passing on an original “Nubians” a few years ago for around $500 – that copy had no dish warp but did have some scratches which was why I passed on it. In hindsight that would have been a comparable bargain it seems!

By: Stefano

Stefano — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:34:21 +0000

I put some bids on the Ra records, I am looking for a copy of Nubians and Holiday from a very long time. I was kicked off without any possibility to reply these offers…I agree that the grading was a bit generous but these records are quite impossible to find. I hope that Sun Ra LLC will decide to produce some nice reissues of the catalog, the El Saturn originals prices are always rising. Itunes Ra reissues are not for me

By: Clifford

Clifford — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:34:40 +0000

On another note, I’m – like probably a lot of you – curious where this collection came from. I assume someone in one of the Scandinavian countries who knew Ayler, Erik Wiedemann, Frippe, or someone else involved with these productions. I often try to find out, when I encounter collections of interest either through online or in-store fruits, who the previous owner was. Usually that information is kept proprietary but as an archivist and researcher (in real life, not just music life), provenance feels somehow important. It certainly is part of my collecting (e.g., some of my records came from Bill Dixon’s collection).

By: Mark

Mark — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:23:27 +0000

Yeah that’s the copy I mentioned in my earlier comment..

By: Clifford

Clifford — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:52:57 +0000

Yeah, nice looking cover though I’d be leery of VG/VG+ vinyl… although for $1800 someone wasn’t!

By: ceedee

ceedee — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 10:07:30 +0000

Another copy of the Pullen/Graves lp also noted below…

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Don-Pullen-Milford-Graves-At-Yale-LP-Rare-Free-Jazz-Hand-Painted-Cover-/201544892640?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=RV2i6cWWDzNCOVdvwcpu5qGeSSk%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

By: Eric

Eric — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 01:34:07 +0000

Nice find, Sean, as a fellow Canadian, I am jealous! Ric’s records I assume, lucky you!