Comments on: Buyers File $30,000 in Fraud Claims Vs. Nautiluso

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Jazz Vinyl Countdown: For Love or Money | jazzcollector.com — Wed, 09 Dec 2009 11:54:37 +0000

[…] Parlan, Us Three, Blue Note 4037. This one happened during the course of trying to uncover the Nautiluso Jazz Vinyl Fraud. I was talking to one of the buyers who had been scammed. He had told me he had gotten his money […]

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Dexter Gordon LP Tops $3,000; Tina Brooks For $2,000 | jazzcollector.com — Fri, 04 Dec 2009 15:34:48 +0000

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By: Jazz Vinyl Fraud on Ebay Tops $130,000 | jazzcollector.com

Jazz Vinyl Fraud on Ebay Tops $130,000 | jazzcollector.com — Thu, 03 Dec 2009 14:29:16 +0000

[…] Rudolf pointed out in a comment yesterday, Nautiluso, perpetrator of the Jazz Vinyl Fraud of 2009, is no longer a registered user on eBay, so the public information about him is slowly starting to […]

By: BLUENOTEJAZZ

BLUENOTEJAZZ — Wed, 02 Dec 2009 07:16:22 +0000

i had a very bad feeling about this auction from the start, thats why i cancelled all my bids w/ this seller… as someone who was ripoff by the italian fraud a couple years back.. ( and never reimbursed0- will explain that later

i had a strong feeling this even with this sellers great feedback, there would be alot of unhappy people,

i only hope that everyone paid via credit card, and npot with funds in your account or check, like i did 2 years ago… paypal knows you have no defense , unlike a credit card were u can simply dispute or file a fraud case against paypal…. i hope that everyone gets reimbursed

By: In Nautiluso Case, PayPal May Be The Biggest Loser | jazzcollector.com

In Nautiluso Case, PayPal May Be The Biggest Loser | jazzcollector.com — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 12:29:47 +0000

[…] makes an interesting point in his comment in the article on the buyers filing $30,000 in claims against Nautiluso. He notes in the earlier fraud that emanated from Italy, most, if not all, of the buyers were made […]

By: brian

brian — Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:25:24 +0000

The fraud perpetrated out of Italy back in 2007, which I’ve mentioned in my previous posts here (including the one at the beginning of this mess where I expressed that I would be wary of this seller), was bigger $$$ wise than this one, I believe. More records, more defrauded buyers in the 2007 fiasco. I think the general fraud perpetrated by this criminal is not the biggest part of the story at the end of the day. Based on my own experience in 2007, I think all the winning bidders will be made whole by Paypal — or at least up to the typical Paypal $2000 maximum. The biggest concern in this particular auction to me is that dramatic shilling clearly occurred (i.e. this sellers was able to set up accounts or get others to bid the prices up). No other way to explain the record-setting prices on so many LPs in an auction that was being questioned by many from the start and coming out of a geographic region (Brazil) where grading and delivery is always a crap shoot. No offense to the great country of Brazil — great bossa nova; terrible grading policies.

By: ceedee

ceedee — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 23:06:29 +0000

michel,I’m with you 100%! I’m just like everybody else(I think).I like to find records for as little money as I can-and SELL records for as MUCH as I can! Ain’t nothing wrong with that. However,if we all become more vigilant and selective about whom we send our hard-earned money to,well..I think we ALL benefit. Not just the honest sellers who may find themselves handling more bidders than before,but also the winning bidder who will be assured of actually GETTING what he pays for. And if the crooks are weaned from the herd,the prices paid may drop a bit,or perhaps level off to a much more sensible amount. That may sound strange coming from a committed seller,but one expression comes to mind that helps me make sense of it all. “Never bite the hand that feeds you”-you know?

By: rockie

rockie — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:59:37 +0000

Good morning,

I would like to provide positive feedbacks to the Nautiluso auction.
A few weeks ago,I filed a claim to Ebay and Paypal against the seller. I can report today
that the lps bought from nautiluso have been fully reimbursed by paypal this morning
thanks

By: michel

michel — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:01:58 +0000

If you look closely at the various pictures, you can see that they are different from each other…Which was very unusual, especially when you sell a complete run of your own collection… why make different kind of picture ? Non sense. I think he used various sources, previous auctions, Pppsike, for providing pictures. i think in some case i would be able to tell from what seller come the picture. The me page showcasinf high end audiophile was the argument to convince big money audiophiles…

By: michel

michel — Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:51:51 +0000

Here’s what i answered to one of our fellow collector, who accused me of insulting people : “i think it is important to keep in mind that people who bid 2000 $ or 3000 $ for items from a low reputable seller are driving the market out of reasonnable. Scammers will be encouraged by their behaviour. My goal is certainly not to insult, just to point out how unreasonable they are. There are many reliable places where we can spend our hard earned money. Why making top bids from a seller who is registered in germany, sells from Brazil, and has NO evidence of ANY experience in selling rare jazz records ? It is easy to ask for additional pictures, sharper description, etc…prior bidding. It is very easy , in fact to have an opinion about a seller and his stuff before bidding the big money. Let’s keep Ebay clean, let’s not encourage those scammers, lets keep our money in our pockets. We will find what we need and what we love from reputable and honest guys. That is hust what i mean”

I’m happy to see that opinion is shared by others.