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By: Japhy

Japhy — Sat, 17 Jan 2015 01:47:47 +0000

Just because the subject of grading and condition is up for conversation again, I happened upon this copy of Zoot Sims’ “Stretching Out” on United Artists – usually a record that fetches a decent price. Yet this one ends soon and has no bids at $29.99. Curious, I took a look, and the seller gives it an unequivocal NM grade. Check that picture – you can’t see anything BUT scuffs and marks all over it! Can you imagine having bid if there wasn’t the picture and you receive that “NM” record? Some of these sellers are just plain loopy! http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stretching-Out-Zoot-Sims-Al-Cohn-United-Artist-LP-5023-Original-1959-/371233316011?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item566f3adcab

By: Joseph

Joseph — Fri, 16 Jan 2015 04:32:49 +0000

Absolutely,

I too have stated in past posts here , that having some of these gems in even VG-VG+ condition, (depending on your point of view) is better then having nothing at all , and luckily I have some of them.

By: Rich (DG Mono)

Rich (DG Mono) — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 03:49:01 +0000

PS – The reality of it is I have quite a few records in my collection with both of the dreaded aforementioned imperfections. 😛

By: Rich (DG Mono)

Rich (DG Mono) — Thu, 15 Jan 2015 03:47:59 +0000

I don’t think I’m personally seeking some unrealistic ideal of ‘perfection’. If we really want to dissect it, no recording ever was 100% free of noise, analog or digital. But so long as a record doesn’t have those overpowering ticks or distortion from groove wear it has a place in my collection. My earlier point was simply that on occasion I may take a chance on a VG+ record but I like to ask the seller if it’s been play graded and if they have any comment regarding the *significant* imperfections mentioned.

By: Andy

Andy — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 17:52:32 +0000

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That.

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 15:43:08 +0000

May wanna get a new hobby if you cant deal with imperfection

By: Joseph

Joseph — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 05:00:28 +0000

Opps sorry, I should add that I know that even if there was a 3rd party grading system for records the conversation would still continue. As someone who has been in the Comic Book market in the past, and even though there is CGC and PGX to smooth things out not everyone agrees on their grading. It just seems to be more readily excepted in that area of collecting. The problem with grading as a whole is it’s too subjective and open to interpretation.

By: Joseph

Joseph — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 04:45:29 +0000

Ahhhhh the timeless discussion about record grading.

I mentioned in a previous post about CGC and 3rd party grading system. That could possibly be the answer , if not, the conversation will continue on Bad/Good grading of records forever.

But my two cents is that I agree with the play test. I have a few Beautiful Mint jazz records by appearance and when you throw them on there is varying degrees of noise due to , Oh so many reasons but none the less it is there.
Example, I have a Dead Mint copy of Miles Davis and Milt Jackson Quintet Prestige 7034. (By sight) Yet there is still a bit of surface noise, not at all bad but it’s there. If I never played it , I too would call this NM.
Playing this right now. Another Milt Jackson LP I like.

By: Clifford

Clifford — Tue, 13 Jan 2015 18:31:03 +0000

Almost nobody can grade a record properly in my experience. Caveat emptor. The question is, can you deal with imperfections?