Comments on: Sealing the Deal, or Not?

By: Ramiro Orta

Ramiro Orta — Sun, 02 Jun 2024 00:49:25 +0000

I buy records to listen to. I’ve bought OGs that I have easily spent hundreds of dollars that have been sealed. I open, clean and play. Since they are all jazz records, they will still be worth something. But, I’m not worried about that. I just want to enjoy the music.

By: JW

JW — Wed, 30 Oct 2013 21:52:37 +0000

Zarabeth – You can’t be serious about thinking this is a pre-OJC press. The inserts were all standard in Contemporary records from the late 50s era. The shrink alone, clearly being a loose baggy, does not fit the 70s pre-ojc issues.

By: zarabeth47

zarabeth47 — Tue, 29 Oct 2013 18:48:01 +0000

just wonderin’ if the semi-barcode-ish looking thing and the blocked mail permit stamp on the insert would keep people from bidding(?) Did they have that stuff in 1957? Almost seems like a 70s pre-ojc press to me. That longer insert just reeks of 70s / 80s to me. I would of kept my bid to $50 highest, if won, park it for awhile and then sell it sealed! It wouldn’t be calling me from behind the shrink to open it as Pepper makes me sneeze bad (not a west coast jazz kinda guy)

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Tue, 29 Oct 2013 07:50:51 +0000

Aaron, thank you so much for this valuable (and distressing) info. Fortunately, I have no access to this item, now on auction, otherwise I would be tempted to make some crazy bids.
By the way, do other EBay.com members have the same experience as me, that certain items are not shown “due to legal restrictions in some countries”? To me, living in France, it happens every now and then and I find the vague EBay explanation rather frustrating.

By: Aaron

Aaron — Tue, 29 Oct 2013 06:43:19 +0000

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/up9o.jpg/

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Mon, 28 Oct 2013 20:55:14 +0000

Aaron: thanks. Unfortunately, EBay does not show this listing to me, “due to legal restrictions which forbid to show certain items to buyers in certain countries”. Is the info / spionage war now on EBay too?
Would it be technically possible for you to take just the picture of the rear and transpose it to jazzcollector readers? I could not do it, but people more gifted than I am, would find a way around.
The subject is really bothering me. I have an early copy, which came with a green catalogue (starting with 10″ series) and it has just the red, no blue.

By: Aaron

Aaron — Mon, 28 Oct 2013 19:44:45 +0000

Not Fredrik, but here is a picture:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ART-PEPPER-Meets-The-Rhythm-Section-Original-DG-PROMO-Contemporary-LP-CLEAN-/121202791972?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item1c383fd624
Blue text on top and red box around the song list.

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Mon, 28 Oct 2013 09:20:06 +0000

Fredrik: do you have a picture of this three-tone Art Pepper on CR?
Who is Ron Rombach?

By: jazzcourier

jazzcourier — Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:35:02 +0000

I have seen many of these sealed Contemporary lps of the same vintage,unfortunately few of the “desire level” of the Pepper.It was common practice for a label like Contemporary to provide “for demonstration only” copies of records to retail record outlets for in store audition.When the customer decided to buy the record a fresh sealed copy was brought forth.
True,not all labels actually sealed the records during this period,you constantly run into records of this period with penciled in retail prices in the corner and small stickers from the retailer next to the price.

By: Earl

Earl — Wed, 23 Oct 2013 16:01:53 +0000

Here is a pretty good article from Goldmine about sealed LP’s:
http://www.goldminemag.com/article/sound-advice-tell-if-that-old-album-is-still-sealed-or-re-sealed

One quote:
“The 1960s is when the mass sealing of LPs began to take place.”
One may reasonably conclude that very few if any albums in 1957 were sealed – doen’t make it impossible but highly unlikely.
What would you do if you bought a selaed LP for investment, kept it sealed, and then decided (say 5 yrs later) to sell it – the buyer opens it, finds it to be a re-release. Would you give him a refund and sorrowfully take your loss?
I still say, stay away from the selaed jobbies.