Comments on: A Day of Prestige at Jazz Collector

By: DARYL L PARKS

DARYL L PARKS — Thu, 26 Nov 2020 01:16:17 +0000

Random Q: Looking at Record Store Day vinyl about to drop on Friday. Found the release below. I’ve never heard of ANY of these cats. Should I buy this?

Jazz Behind The Dikes Vol 1Various

Jazz Behind the Dikes was the first of its kind to present some of the greatest Dutch jazzmen under ideal conditions, in other words in their own combo’s and playing the music of their own choice. They were allowed complete freedom, so that they were not forced to consider the commercial aspects the whole time, an element which frequently leaves its mark on the performances of many a fine jazz artist. This record, therefore, contains nothing but straightforward modern jazz. These modern jazz artists like Rob Madna Trio, Tony Vos Quartet, and Rita Reys are all well-known behind the dikes of the low countries.

1. Rob Madna Trio – All God’s Chillun 2. Tony Vos Quartet – Souvenir 3. Stido AlstrØm Trio – Jean 4. Wessel Ilcken Combo – A Dandy Line

SIDE B 1. Stido AlstrØm Trio – Stido’s Extract 2. Wessel Ilcken Combo feat. Rita Reys – My Funny Valentine 3. Rob Madna Trio – First Date 4. Tony Vos Quartet – You Hi To Mi Ho

By: jimrjim

jimrjim — Sun, 22 Nov 2020 14:10:48 +0000

lennib and Robert, I think that is an interesting discussion. Maybe lennib could write a long post for jazzcollector that includes the Coltrane Expression purchase. When I unloaded (is it better to say “moved along”?) my 2,500+ jazz lp’s I held on to thirty, either because they were signed for me, I was in love with the cover (e.g. “Heavy Sounds” by Elvin Jones and Richard Davis), it had always been a reliable “go-to” (e.g. “Blues and the Abstract Truth”) or it was a talisman (Graves & Pullen at Yale).
When I look at them now they remind me I once had a very engaging collection and now I have only a handful of very meaningful records… to me.

By: lennib

lennib — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 21:05:46 +0000

Robert- thank you for your interest in what I kept. They are as follows:
And there actually are 11
1.Charlie Parker Night and day Verve MGM pressing 1st Jazz record I bought in 1964/65
2,3,4.Gene Shaw his three on Argo, Breakthrough, Debut in Blues, Carnival Sketches. I knew him and talked with him a lot, though I was too young to really ‘hear’ what he was saying. He also signed two to me.
5. John Coltrane Expression, Impulse stereo another early purchase, bought it when it came out at Jazz Record Mart in Chicago ( there’s a story there)
6. John Coltrane Cosmic Music on short lived Coltrane label. Bought this also at Jazz Record Mart when it came out. Had a dickens of a time getting the hype sticker off plastic to put on lp.
7. John Coltrane s/t Impulse material Japanese three lp box set with interview 7″, kept really for great photos in booklet
8.John Coltrane Coltrane in Japan Japanese box set
9. John Coltrane Second Night In Tokyo Japanese box set
10. John Coltrane Impassioned Tenor-Man Alto Records, a Boris Rose special. I have this material on cd, but loved the title.
11.John Coltrane Hooray For J.C./Gene Ammons Session Records. Another Boris rose special product. According ot my research the Coltrane material is available nowhere else
So there you have it. Thanks for asking this of me Robert.

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 20:42:59 +0000

Al asked to share the experience of old records which after one initial spin remain on the shelf, forgotten.
Well, recently I discovered ‘Swamp Seed’ of Jimmy Heath on Riverside. The album is just gorgeous, fine compositions, neatly arranged, a better than average Don Byrd, the forceful blowing by Jimmy and some nice solos by Herbie Hancock.
With the demise of Riverside, big quantities of Riverside cut outs flooded the Continent. I bought mine for DFl 9,90 . The audio is fantastic.

By: Thomas

Thomas — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 19:45:28 +0000

I purchased the Red Garland – Manteca LP mentioned in Al’s post. I took a risk based on the photos and am happy to report there we no condition issues. The cover is beautiful and the record is in equally good shape with no playback issues whatsoever.

By: Robert

Robert — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 17:03:37 +0000

lennib, I am also of your tender age and have a collection of excess 3,000 jazz albums. Primarily 1st pressings. All the”holy grails”. I’m intrigued as to the 10 albums you didn’t sell. I’m sure others will also be interested.

By: lennib

lennib — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 16:04:20 +0000

Art, while your comment provides an apt insight, this site is labeled Jazz Collector, and by the very nature of the beast, a collector, of anything, seeks objects for their value, whether such value be of personal liking or present/future financial gain. And oftentimes to assign valuation to one’s collection, a monetary summation is used.
Personally, when I sold almost all my records, those I valued for their music were often not valued as highly financially by purchasers.

By: Art Klempner

Art Klempner — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 14:33:00 +0000

I hate to keep “harping” on the same old topic, but it sure seems to me that many of comments lately are not really about JAZZ MUSIC. Maybe it’s just me,(as usual) but this excellent sight might re-brand itself with a new name: “collecting jazz for profit “

By: Shaft

Shaft — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 11:10:45 +0000

Regarding the 1568 I have the impression that 2 buyers just put in “silly bids” probably just to make sure they got the LP. Anyway the ending price was way over what the winning buyer had in funds. So I heard that in the end they made some kind of deal with vinyl house accepting some records as part payment for the 1568. But I would not thin that the actual going market has changed that much for 1568? I mean two crazy bidders (the other one in unknown) does not change the 1568-market in my book. At least one of the two will most likely not bid that high again……….

By: rl1856

rl1856 — Wed, 18 Nov 2020 00:52:38 +0000

RE: Ebay seller that will not accept refunds. Ebay will force a seller to provide a full refund to a dissatisfied buyer. Claiming not to know how to grade, is possibly a way of not being pinned down to a statement of condition- in order to avoid responsibility for an LP delivered but “not as described”.

RE: Vinyl-House-Uk At one time their web site alluded to their ability to restore an LP, including the cover. Gilding the Lilly I suppose. BUT- weren’t they involved in a sale of BN1568 for an astronomical price ? Buyer did not pay, but the price point moved the market, and this seller later tried to sell other copies against the new higher price level…..

I wont wait around for strike 3 from this seller…..