Comments on: A Prestige Pair; a Bird Autograph?????!!!!!!!!!

By: david j

david j — Fri, 04 Nov 2016 03:30:46 +0000

I ended up purchasing the Brown lp. It looks almost new, so it was a good buy from a condition stand point. From a music stand point, the disk is a combination of two 10″ lp. The first side is with Dameron’s band while the second is with Art Farmer and some Swedes. I think this lp might not be as popular since the Dameron cuts are more in the bop big band vein, a la Dizzy Gillespie. The farmer cuts are amazing and the kind of music that makes many folks pay top dollar for original pressings. It was a good score. As far as the comparison with the Prestige Moondog lps, there were 20 of the his three lps sold in the last year listed in Collectorsfrenzy. In contrast, 10 of what appear to be at a quick glance 1st pressings of the Brown record sold during the same period. This suggests that the Brown is slightly more common than any of the three Moondog disks. I’m not sure this accounts for the price difference noted by others. I have some of Moondog’s recordings, but to me I prefer to listen to Brown. Others my feel differently.

By: Ethan

Ethan — Thu, 15 Sep 2016 12:30:20 +0000

They likely sold many more Memorial Albums than Moondogs. Also the folks who like Moondog (such as myself) tend towards eccentric behaviors like paying too much for albums. I cant think of one album of his that is regularly cheap, most are pricey.

By: Abrasive_Beautiful

Abrasive_Beautiful — Wed, 14 Sep 2016 14:21:43 +0000

lol Clifford I have been gawking at that Sonny Rollins auction… I have no problems with buying up VG or less copies of rare records, but I can’t defend that one…it’s probably not even playable.

Woody, I have also seen a few albums with ink transfer from the label as you describe. That and a non ratty onion skin sleeve are both great signs that the record wasn’t played much or sat dormant for many years at least

By: Woody

Woody — Tue, 13 Sep 2016 18:07:18 +0000

I bought a small Riverside collection of records in wax paper sleeves that had sat on the same shelf untouched since the late 50’s. You could tell the lps hadn’t moved because the blue ink had left a perfect transfer onto the wax inner sleeve without any ghosting of the label. It was as if you tried to make a silly putty copy of the labels. There were some 63rd St Blue Notes that if you looked inside the inner sleeve you would see a perfect transfer of the blue ink from the label. It was the only collection I’ve ever seen that looked brand new, Stone Cold Mint!!

By: lennib

lennib — Tue, 13 Sep 2016 09:43:57 +0000

Re autograph, nearly all my autographs of Jazz musicians from the 30’s/40’s even 50’s are in a white pen similar to the Bird autograph in this auction. Memory does not always serve me well yet I seem to recall Mr. Parker using “Yardbird” in an autograph displayed in the book ‘To Bird With Love.’ Again my recollection could be faulty.
The autograph signature is similar in formation to those of Bird in my collection.
All this submitted for what it’s worth.

By: Clifford

Clifford — Tue, 13 Sep 2016 04:37:05 +0000

speaking of Saxophone Colossus:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/SONNY-ROLLINS-Saxophone-Colossus-LP-on-Prestige-NYC-DG-mono-/272367116490?hash=item3f6a5860ca:g:xAAAAOSwFdtXzdxj

By: Joe L

Joe L — Tue, 13 Sep 2016 01:09:31 +0000

JOK – that’s precisely the problem. For example, my original of Way Out West came in a rice paper inner that “seems” original and authentic, but Rudolf (who would know and who I certainly trust) tells us that it is not, in fact, original. But my original of Saxophone Colossus also came in a rice paper inner, and that seems to be original. So I just don’t know.

By: JOK

JOK — Tue, 13 Sep 2016 00:02:18 +0000

I have purchased a few albums with rice paper inserts. The problem is, since they are over 50+ years old, I never know with certainty if they are the originals.

By: Richard

Richard — Mon, 12 Sep 2016 20:41:55 +0000

I bought two Lockjaw albums earlier this year, one Riverside, the other Jazzland, which had rice paper inners

By: geoffrey wheeler

geoffrey wheeler — Mon, 12 Sep 2016 18:12:28 +0000

Re the Parker Dials: To compare authentic Parker autographs with the autograph on the Dial 78, google “Charlie Parker’s Autograph” and you’ll find examples to use as a comparison. I, too, have seen Parker autographs (a collector friend has more than 30) but never with “Yard Bird” as part of one. The seller has chosen a poor way to display the 78s. It’s difficult to visually grade the condition of the surfaces. As for the autograph in white, using a pen with white ink was typically the way 78s were autographed at record stores by visiting artists. I have a few, but this doesn’t look like the work of a pen. There is also a copy of Billie Holiday’s “Strange Fruit” being offered on E-bay for $15,000. The seller claims the shellac record is vinyl, which it is not. I have an un-autographed copy and I can assure you it’s shellac, not vinyl.