Comments on: E-Baying: Billie, Stan, Sun Ra and More

By: geoffrey wheeler

geoffrey wheeler — Thu, 31 Mar 2016 01:04:14 +0000

Again, Re: Dale Record Corp. Two tracks (“Cobblestones” and “Prelude to a Kiss”) from Dale LP-24 featuring the John Hardee Quartet, plus other tracks from Bob Shad 78 labels, were reissued on Parliament 10-inch L.P. 50 “Variations of the Modern Saxophone.” Other tracks are devoted to Stan Getz, Paul Quinichette, and Allan (sic: Allen) Eager. No address is given on either the labels or the front cover; the back cover is solid black. I have not been able to find ANY reference to this LP in discographies. Given that all the material comes from Shad 78 labels, it is likely this is yet another Shad product.

By: geoffrey wheeler

geoffrey wheeler — Tue, 29 Mar 2016 03:11:47 +0000

Re: Ten-inch Dale LP-25 Billie and Stan. One afternoon in the late Fall of 1951, I was visiting a school friend, David W., who lived about a block-and-a-half from me in Newton, Mass. We were playing bottle pool when David suggested we go upstairs. There was something he wanted to play for me. We went to his older brother’s room. There David showed me what I later learned was called a “transcription” disc. He said his brother worked at a recording studio and they had recorded this disc of Stan Getz playing with Billie Holiday. Both had performed at the same time at George Wein’s Storyville jazz club. I knew this from hearing one of Nat Hentoff’s half-hour broadcasts. I don’t recall what the disc looked like. A few years later (1954), I became aware of a 10-inch LP that contained tracks from this transcription disc but did not buy the LP. More years passed, when I bought a 12-inch LP titled “A Rare Live Recording of Billie Holiday” at Storyville, (Recording Industry Corp.) RIC M2001, released in 1964. This LP contained the same tracks as on the Dale LP, plus additional tunes recorded with different personnel that included Marquis Foster, who was a Storyville house drummer at the time. Dale LP-25 features a Burt Goldblatt cover. The back lists other 10-inch LPs (LP-21 through LP-25), a Max Shad production, issued by Dale Record Corporation, 145 W. 18th St., New York 11, N.Y. The other LPs contain tracks of 78 recordings originally issued on the Jax label (owned by Morty Shad), Sittin’ in With label (owned by both Bob and Morty Shad), and the Jade label (owned by Bob Shad). During the early part of his career. Bob was also associated with other labels: Savoy, National, Haven, and several others. Most irritatingly, various Bob Shad bios on the Internet focus on his activities in R&B and Blues and give barely any attention to his jazz connections. This speaks poorly to the sophistication of these Internet writers.

By: C'wy

C'wy — Thu, 24 Mar 2016 04:54:58 +0000

who is the sax on the joe gordon/roy haynes clip, on the transition acetate?

By: Chris R

Chris R — Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:35:54 +0000

this “musician” they got it from obviously was a fixture in the industry as well. either an executive or a relative of Ayler or Ra. i may not be older but you do not see this stuff in one batch like this. and up in Maine? hmmm

By: ROB L

ROB L — Sat, 19 Mar 2016 13:43:33 +0000

Unfortunately, the typewritten program notes seem to be missing from the Pullen-Graves album. Looks like an otherwise desireable copy though. R

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 19:54:16 +0000

I inquired and it was a private collection not belonging to a musician(I asked). That’s all the info I got..

Many of those Sun Ra titles are second issues..”jazz in silhouette” was first released with a silk screened cover. “We travel the spaceways” should be a blue label Saturn..this copy on auction has 70s era labels. “Night of the purple moon” should be a pink Saturn label, etc, etc.

By: Joe L

Joe L — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 19:44:24 +0000

Some of those original Chicago-era Sun Ras look pretty decent – We Travel and Space Ways, Nubians of Plutonia, Super Sonic Jazz, and esp. Jazz In Silhouette. Would love to know to whom this collection belonged!!

By: Clifford

Clifford — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 15:51:03 +0000

yeah, I’ll do a post on those auctions when all is said and done. A few of those pieces look to be rather “condition-y” on the covers and records… VG-, VG, so they may not do as much damage although they are presented very well.

By: Mark

Mark — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 15:24:36 +0000

I noticed the floodgates have opened! More variations of “bells” up and tons more including lots of Sun Ra (some not true original issues mind you) and the handpainted “live at Yale” which would look really nice sitting on my shelves but alas just a pipe dream for me!

And all at $9.99 starts..so let’s see of some of these other “bells” reach the 4 figure mark via the auction route..

By: corto maltese

corto maltese — Fri, 18 Mar 2016 14:04:50 +0000

Well, the “Bells” that didn’t sell immediately (plus even more variations) and the three Bird Notes are now offered as auctions, along with some 70 other rare to véry rare (and desirable) records: advance editions of Albert Aylers’ “Spiritual Unity” and Ornette’s “At Town Hall” on ESP, “Chet Is Back” in its original triple gatefold, “Eric Dolphy in Europe”, Don Pullen & Milford Graves with the handpainted cover, the “Lenox School of Jazz 1959”, the list goes on and on…
Does anyone know the origin of this collection?