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		By: Tony		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I see that copy of Moanin went for $211 in the end. About double of its historical value on eBay.... I refrained from bidding in the end as the seller was not very forthcoming... (would be nice to see the full cover before spending that sort of cash).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see that copy of Moanin went for $211 in the end. About double of its historical value on eBay&#8230;. I refrained from bidding in the end as the seller was not very forthcoming&#8230; (would be nice to see the full cover before spending that sort of cash).</p>
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		By: Tony		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 22:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Apparently scratches only count if you can feel them with a fingernail (god forbid) according to some sellers!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently scratches only count if you can feel them with a fingernail (god forbid) according to some sellers!</p>
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		By: London Calling		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[London Calling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 16:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Perhaps I have been unlucky, but I have some records released in France in the fifties and owned by French jazz fans,and bought from French sellers, and have found them offered in pretty poor condition. 

One recently was described as VG+ but on delivery it had a cumulative length of about an inch and a quarter of deep click, click, click, scratches.

The French seller was absolutely convinced this was a &quot;normal&quot; VG+ and wouldn&#039;t budge on it.

Perhaps &quot;VG+&quot; loses something in translation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I have been unlucky, but I have some records released in France in the fifties and owned by French jazz fans,and bought from French sellers, and have found them offered in pretty poor condition. </p>
<p>One recently was described as VG+ but on delivery it had a cumulative length of about an inch and a quarter of deep click, click, click, scratches.</p>
<p>The French seller was absolutely convinced this was a &#8220;normal&#8221; VG+ and wouldn&#8217;t budge on it.</p>
<p>Perhaps &#8220;VG+&#8221; loses something in translation.</p>
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		By: Tony		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 08:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[BigBear: I follow your reasoning. On reflection I have probably done the same in the past. Better to pay what initially looks like more for the real deal than think you are saving money on cheaper copies only to spend more in the long run getting the one you want...  I hope it turns out to be OK.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BigBear: I follow your reasoning. On reflection I have probably done the same in the past. Better to pay what initially looks like more for the real deal than think you are saving money on cheaper copies only to spend more in the long run getting the one you want&#8230;  I hope it turns out to be OK.</p>
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		By: BigBear		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BigBear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 04:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Tony

It is all about condition in this case.  I am paying a premium for this seller&#039;s goods.  When he says NM and looks unplayed, I believe it based on past experience.  That is worth the premium vs random sellers calling something NM.  At least for me in this situation.  For the ~50 best LPs out there (the ones I want to play again and again), I want as nice a copy as possible.  Pristine versions of Soultrane have gone for well over $500.  Though I see your point which is that the record is broadly available and can be had for less if willing to get VG++ from nice seller which names a slight defect (400227898558) or take a risk from a No Returns Accepted seller with limited feedback that calls something NM and doesn&#039;t even show the labels (250853607432) or mention the address etc.  Now let&#039;s just hope it is in as nice a condition as I hope / expect.  I will post when I receive it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tony</p>
<p>It is all about condition in this case.  I am paying a premium for this seller&#8217;s goods.  When he says NM and looks unplayed, I believe it based on past experience.  That is worth the premium vs random sellers calling something NM.  At least for me in this situation.  For the ~50 best LPs out there (the ones I want to play again and again), I want as nice a copy as possible.  Pristine versions of Soultrane have gone for well over $500.  Though I see your point which is that the record is broadly available and can be had for less if willing to get VG++ from nice seller which names a slight defect (400227898558) or take a risk from a No Returns Accepted seller with limited feedback that calls something NM and doesn&#8217;t even show the labels (250853607432) or mention the address etc.  Now let&#8217;s just hope it is in as nice a condition as I hope / expect.  I will post when I receive it.</p>
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		By: Mike		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 20:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[LC, This gets annoying to me as well.  The opposite for a quality club recording to me is Blakey at Birdland.  I actually have the Fontana Olympia release high on my list as well to grab.  They aren&#039;t horribly expensive, but they just don&#039;t come up as often.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LC, This gets annoying to me as well.  The opposite for a quality club recording to me is Blakey at Birdland.  I actually have the Fontana Olympia release high on my list as well to grab.  They aren&#8217;t horribly expensive, but they just don&#8217;t come up as often.</p>
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		By: London Calling		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[London Calling]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:55:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mike - those Blakey St Germain recordings (1958) - I have volumes 1 and 2 (mono), and also the Fontana release of the &quot;Olympia&quot; concert that was recorded on the same tour around the same time,same songs, and same line up (Golson excelling on tenor)

The St Germain recording for me has one major difference - the audience in the club is pretty noisy, and its not all band - audience interraction, its people shouting and calling to their friends and general hubub. At first its atmospheric but after a while I get the urge to tell them to shut up.

Perhaps I can get meds for this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike &#8211; those Blakey St Germain recordings (1958) &#8211; I have volumes 1 and 2 (mono), and also the Fontana release of the &#8220;Olympia&#8221; concert that was recorded on the same tour around the same time,same songs, and same line up (Golson excelling on tenor)</p>
<p>The St Germain recording for me has one major difference &#8211; the audience in the club is pretty noisy, and its not all band &#8211; audience interraction, its people shouting and calling to their friends and general hubub. At first its atmospheric but after a while I get the urge to tell them to shut up.</p>
<p>Perhaps I can get meds for this.</p>
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		By: Aaron		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Aaron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 18:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That second eBay auction had Soultrane listed as a Comedy album!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That second eBay auction had Soultrane listed as a Comedy album!</p>
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		By: Tony		</title>
		<link>https://jazzcollector.com/prestige/ebaying-criss-trane-tenorman/comment-page-1/#comment-155255</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tony]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 09:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Seems a bit expensive for the Soultrane- these seem to go for half the price.

For example ebay: 400227898558; 250853607432;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems a bit expensive for the Soultrane- these seem to go for half the price.</p>
<p>For example ebay: 400227898558; 250853607432;</p>
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		By: BigBear		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BigBear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jul 2011 07:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I am the (hopefully) happy new owner of the Coltrane Soultrane....I&#039;ve had nice experience with this seller so I hope this is as nice as I hope/assume it is.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the (hopefully) happy new owner of the Coltrane Soultrane&#8230;.I&#8217;ve had nice experience with this seller so I hope this is as nice as I hope/assume it is.</p>
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