Prestige Day: Jackie, Farmer, Fuller, Webster Young
The past few days we’ve been catching up on some Blue Notes and some 10-inchers. Now it’s time for our old friend Prestige:
Jackie McLean, Jackie’s Pal, Prestige 7068. This one was in M- condition for both the record and the cover and it was another one out of the batch from Nautiluso. The price was $896. While we were there, we checked out whether there’s any new feedback on this seller from the amazing collection of a few weeks ago. So far, there’s nothing new to report. We’ll keep looking.
Art Farmer Quintet Featuring Gigi Gryce, Prestige 7017. This was an original New York yellow-label pressing and was offered by Euclid Records. The record was VG++ and the cover was M-. The price was $203.50, which is a bit more than we’ve seen in the past for this record, but certainly well deserved as an early Prestige with some great artists.
Curtis Fuller, New Trombone, Prestige 7107. This was an original New York pressing, also
from Euclid records. It was listed as VG++ condition for the vinyl and M- for the cover. The price was $420.
Webster Young, For Lady, Prestige 7106. This was an original New York yellow label in M- condition for both the vinyl and the cover. The price was $482.77. Someday, I think that will be viewed as a bargain: It seems inevitable that the Prestiges will climb in price and value to close the gap between them and the Blue Notes. Or perhaps that just my optimism, since my own collection is certainly more weighted toward the original Prestiges. Anyway, I bet Rudolf agrees with me.
Hi, I agree with Prestige closing the gap on BN, sharing many of the same artists on high quality vinyl on coveted laminated covers.
Sales and distribution, and hence rariety are probably similar.
I have an unrelated question someone could help me with…
I recently won a nice copy of BST 84094 by Fred Jackson with no mention of Liberty on the cover (thick, laminated) or vinyl, but there is no Plastylite ear in the run off.
I have researched the record on popsike, with only one rare stereo version of this lp on record in which there was not an ear as well. My question is…is it possibly that this record is an anomaly, still an original pressing without an ear or is it a Liberty stereo pressing never having a original stereo release (but Liberty couldn’t reuse an earlier jacket and label???)?
Furthermore, in Goldmine there is a West 63rd version and I cannot find evidence that it exists at all….could my price guide be wrong?
Your opinion is appreciated, Chris
So it has New York USA labels? Does it have anything other than BST 84094 in the run off?
Yes it does Geraint, there is Van Gelder in the run off as well as the matrix number and NY USA labels, but I haven’t received it yet having won it just last night(ebay#360198451128).
Ever placed a bid on the high side knowing it was more than it was worth, but to ensure success?
Buyer’s remorse hasn’t set in, but if it is a lighter weight vinyl indicative of Liberty, it might…although to my original question, I am skeptical all original Blue Note stereo issues have an ear.
Thanks, Chris
All BN originals including stereos have the playstylite ear. Except some late numbers, that were originally issued (Mono and Stereo) witout the ear (like Dippin, Night of the Cookers for example : i had a list a couple years ago, but can’t remember). But the Hootin and Tootin you have IS a libery later reissue. Some later Libery reissues are 100 % original lookalike, but without the ear. Sometimes the blue of the Blue and white label is darker than original.
Forget about Goldmine bull@@@t. It has leaded to mistakes generations of beginners collectors. Full of mistakes.
Yes, Chris, to your other question, there is no West 63rd version of that record and, yes to Michel, the Goldmine bullshit has been the bane of many collectors for years. I remember going to record stores where the owner or clerk had a great record but no idea of the value. As soon as he would pull out the Goldmine Record guide I’d put the record back on the shelf, knowing that he would drastically overprice it based on their faulty and ignorant information. That’s one of the reasons I started doing the Price Guide here at Jazz Collector — at least these are real prices displayed in a public forum.
Al: “closing the gap.” I sure do agree. It is the same music, the same engineer. These early Prestige albums deserve to be rated at the same level as Blue Notes.
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