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[…] we recorded a bunch of high-end Blue Notes for the Jazz Collector Price Guide, and a batch of nice Prestiges, and even some nice 10-Inch jazz vinyl. So, today, let’s turn our attention to another of our […]

By: Rudolf A. Flinterman

Rudolf A. Flinterman — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:06:48 +0000

Al: “closing the gap.” I sure do agree. It is the same music, the same engineer. These early Prestige albums deserve to be rated at the same level as Blue Notes.

By: Al

Al — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 12:33:52 +0000

Yes, Chris, to your other question, there is no West 63rd version of that record and, yes to Michel, the Goldmine bullshit has been the bane of many collectors for years. I remember going to record stores where the owner or clerk had a great record but no idea of the value. As soon as he would pull out the Goldmine Record guide I’d put the record back on the shelf, knowing that he would drastically overprice it based on their faulty and ignorant information. That’s one of the reasons I started doing the Price Guide here at Jazz Collector — at least these are real prices displayed in a public forum.

By: Michel

Michel — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:31:48 +0000

All BN originals including stereos have the playstylite ear. Except some late numbers, that were originally issued (Mono and Stereo) witout the ear (like Dippin, Night of the Cookers for example : i had a list a couple years ago, but can’t remember). But the Hootin and Tootin you have IS a libery later reissue. Some later Libery reissues are 100 % original lookalike, but without the ear. Sometimes the blue of the Blue and white label is darker than original.

Forget about Goldmine bull@@@t. It has leaded to mistakes generations of beginners collectors. Full of mistakes.

By: Chris

Chris — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 02:43:15 +0000

Yes it does Geraint, there is Van Gelder in the run off as well as the matrix number and NY USA labels, but I haven’t received it yet having won it just last night(ebay#360198451128).
Ever placed a bid on the high side knowing it was more than it was worth, but to ensure success?
Buyer’s remorse hasn’t set in, but if it is a lighter weight vinyl indicative of Liberty, it might…although to my original question, I am skeptical all original Blue Note stereo issues have an ear.
Thanks, Chris

By: Geraint

Geraint — Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:02:37 +0000

So it has New York USA labels? Does it have anything other than BST 84094 in the run off?

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:51:22 +0000

Hi, I agree with Prestige closing the gap on BN, sharing many of the same artists on high quality vinyl on coveted laminated covers.
Sales and distribution, and hence rariety are probably similar.
I have an unrelated question someone could help me with…
I recently won a nice copy of BST 84094 by Fred Jackson with no mention of Liberty on the cover (thick, laminated) or vinyl, but there is no Plastylite ear in the run off.
I have researched the record on popsike, with only one rare stereo version of this lp on record in which there was not an ear as well. My question is…is it possibly that this record is an anomaly, still an original pressing without an ear or is it a Liberty stereo pressing never having a original stereo release (but Liberty couldn’t reuse an earlier jacket and label???)?
Furthermore, in Goldmine there is a West 63rd version and I cannot find evidence that it exists at all….could my price guide be wrong?
Your opinion is appreciated, Chris