Comments on: Some “Perfect” Records, And Others

By: Clifford

Clifford — Tue, 14 Oct 2014 18:24:55 +0000

A couple of those Esquires I haven’t seen before. I’m told that a number of titles were pressed in the 250-300 range. I’d assume around $400-$500 on The Cats.

By: Andy

Andy — Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:42:56 +0000

Has anyone noticed this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TOMMY-FLANAGAN-with-JOHN-COLTRANE-THE-CATS-1959-UK-1st-ESQUIRE-LP-/351190288639?pt=UK_Records&hash=item51c49288ff

How high do you think it will go?

By: Clifford

Clifford — Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:21:52 +0000

Regarding pastime’s auctions (that I’ve bid and lost on – hello from Waxidermy), I’d assume a distributor of old stock jazz records sealed them, perhaps later in the ’60s.

By: Earl

Earl — Tue, 14 Oct 2014 15:14:29 +0000

Terry

I agree that sometimes the seal was placed for legitimate reasons, such as a desire to protect the albums from shelf damage, or the one you mentioned. My only point is that it is impossible to tell whether any seal was factory placed (unless you use the criteria Rudolf mentioned where applicable).

An honest seller of a “sealed” album should state one of the following, or a variation thereof:

1. I believe this sealed album is an unused original; if the buyer opens it and finds it otherwise, he/she may return it for a full refund, including shipping.

(or) 2. I have no idea as to whether this seal was factory placed and what the contents may be. I am selling it as is. Caveat Emptor.

By: Terry

Terry — Tue, 14 Oct 2014 14:46:12 +0000

Earl,
I used to get UK and German LP’s wholesale from an importer in NY that had the albums sealed before shipment. He claimed that it prevented customs agents from inspecting the interior for contraband and possibly damaging the product.

Terry

By: lennib

lennib — Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:33:12 +0000

Re Lester Young Norgran lp that sold in hundreds. Made me wonder if I still had my copy, which I did, still with dollar price sticker on it. Maybe one day I’ll try my luck at mega bucks.

By: Earl

Earl — Sat, 11 Oct 2014 17:17:26 +0000

…..and, I should add, there is NO way to predict the pressing.

By: Earl

Earl — Sat, 11 Oct 2014 15:46:43 +0000

Why is it not clear that many “seals” were placed by machines owned by record stores &/or distributors to make albums appear new? It doesn’t mean the album doesn’t have DG or even that it’s not original: only that it’s not FACTORY sealed, and may, in some cases, be a used copy.

By: DaveS

DaveS — Fri, 10 Oct 2014 21:22:37 +0000

Ron Perkins:

Please don’t take this the wrong way, but the 4 records you are selling on eBay are all much later pressings. I would be very surprised if you got any action at your minimum starting prices. Anyone on this site, crazy as we are, would probably not be a good audience to sell those items.

Good luck.

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Fri, 10 Oct 2014 20:28:23 +0000

Hi pastime. That is interesting info. I was around in the golden era, from 1958 on and very active, thence my categoric statement.
I wonder how and when your copies got sealed and baggy too.
I am glad you had these good surprises when you cracked the seals.