Today on eBay, Feb. 2, 2009
Here are some of the items we at Jazz Collector are watching on eBay today:
The previously mentioned Euclid Records has a few nice items up today, including Charlie Mariano Sextet, Fantasy 3-10. This is a 10-inch LP in M- condition. The current price is $76.
Here’s another one for the $1,000 record bin, or perhaps even the $2,000 bin: Thelonious Monk, Prestige 7053. This is the one with the cover design by Andy Warhol. The record is only in VG condition and the cover is VG+, yet the price is already at $1,775. The same seller has another Warhol cover: Artie Shaw, Both Feet in the Groove, RCA 1201. This is an original pressing and it looks to be in at least VG+ condition. The current price is $71.
Finally, here’s a pretty Norgran currently in the $50 price range: Johnny Hodges, Ellingtonia ’56, Norgran 1055. This one is in what looks like VG++/VG+ condition.
The Monk album is an obvious fraud, the cover is designed by Reid Miles, who put his name under the K of Monk, not by Warhol.
Also, fyg, it is a second pressing, re-packaged and was issued only with the Bergenfield adress. The original first pressing with the NYC adress has a rare picture of Monk ( no credentials) on a violet background and the names of the musicians and catalogue number printed on a white background. Letters violet and black.
just saw it went for 2300 plus. Amazing. But the seller is in for problems since his description is incorrect. I have both versions, the original and the re-packaging, here in front of me.
Thank you for the info Rudolph. I always wondered which cover was the original for that record.
Jon, in order to establish whether a Prestige is original, there are 2 rules:
the NYC or N.J. adress and the size of the sleeve. Re-packages are about 1/2 to 1 centimetre bigger and have a text on the spine. Originals have textless spines. But attention to later Status type pressings which came in non-laminated sleeves with no clear spine texts.
Rught, but not true for all Prestige. In fact, many of them were not reissued, and exist only on one edition. (like the MObley’s for example : late reissue exists, but with different art work)
Both Reid Miles and Warhol are to be credited for this cover.
I don’t think its a fraud, the record WAS issued with NY adress record and reissued with Bergenfield adress. Anyway, the original cover is the photo cover.
Michel, I am only referring to re-packagings bearing the same catalogue number. E.g.
7043 came as “Informal Jazz” by Elmo Hope, thereafter as “2 tenors” in an abstract brownish cover giving Mobley first honours, and a “2 tenors” photo cover showing a big Trane and a small Mobley, the latter 2 with spine text.
The Mobleys were never re-packaged with the same catalogue number, but re-issued with new catalogue numbers (in phoney stereo?)
You may be right that the Reid Miles cover came out already in the NYC period. On my abstract white cover there is no reference to Warhol, but, of course, you may be right (what is your source?)
Paul Maréchal book. I think the lettering of the 7053 is Warhol’s mother (same as Mooondog’s prestige)
Anyway, there’s something i don’t understand….
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Neither do I.
Now the record appears to have been sold for in excess of 700 in stead of 2300+!?
The NYC version clearly exists from the photos.
I don’t know this Maréchal, but he may be knowledgeable.
Michel: The record WAS sold for 2350, and the one you are referring to in Jan. for 710. So there have been 2 sales, and now a third is coming up for a fixed price of 1399 or something. I never considered this one to be a hot item.
Now, what don’t you understand? I am curious.
The Maréchal story seems something worth to dig into. I dont know this gentleman. Will look in Wikepedia.
Paul Maréchal is a french University professor on artistic design. His book on “art sleeves and Andy Warhol” was just issued (early 2009).
I was just surprised to see en Ex 7153 copy sell for 710, and two weeks later, an VG copy of the same record and from the same seller for sells 2350. Seems illogical. But the seller Id is “Much more bounce”. An appropriate id in this case.
Maybe the seller has a VG-/G+ that will sells for 5000 $. Catch the wave….
anyway, the fact that, according to Professeur Maréchal, Andy’s mother, or sister, or lover, has contributed the blue hand writing (nice as it is) to Reid Miles’ design, does not make the sleeve an Andy Warhol design.
I think it is misleading information.
“I think it is misleading information”.
Right. But it is incredible to see that someone who pays 2000 + for a record is not aware of that. It seems that the correct info is easy to find.
Michel, a side effect of our discussion was that I pulled out the original 10″ Lps, reviewed my 2 versions of 7053, read Robert Levin’s liner on “We see Thelonious Monk”, the re-issue on Prestige 7245, with a fabulous Don Schlitten photo cover, and played for the first time the english version of 7053, on Esquire 32-109, with a lovely cover by Colin Duff.
Did I hear somebody mumble that these 2 Monk quintet sessions are over-represented in my collection?
Whilst shipping a few albums to a friend, amongst which : “THE CONGREGATION” -Johnny Griffin, Blue Note 1580, I notice to my great surprise 2 names on the 1580 art cover: Andy Warhol, hand written for the painting, and Reid Miles printed for the overall design.
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