Hi, I am new to this site but would like a reader opinion. I have the only copy of Ella Fitzgerald live in Melbourne Australia on video (It’s a funny story of how I came about it)… and I wanted to know how to go about having it valued. Does it have value? Also, should I put it on DVD?
Maybe this is best suited here:
I grabbed a copy of JR Monterose’s “In Action” today and I was wondering how I could tell, if it’s a first pressing or the later VSOP-Reissue.
Does anyone have any clue, how they differ?
Any help is appreciated!
Dear Miss Sara, I wopuld like to have (‘few’)more informactions of the Live Video concert of Ella Fitzgerald ..”in your hands”.
-1-names of the sidemen(Musicians),,-2- year of the concert,,-3-‘color,,or ‘b.&.w’,,-4- how long is the concert,,-5- the ‘general’ quality of the video.. Please, if you can answer, write me
hi Sarah, normaly video’s or dvd’s aren;t collectors items, and not worth that much money, unless it is like a private concert recording.
I do like to know what year the concert was , side musicians, playlist etc..
Katharsis: I have only two VSOP albums (the two of Elmo Hope ex Celebrity and Beacon). Both have a discrete V.S.O.P. stamp on the rear of the sleeve saying Replica edition Phonorecords and a VSOP-.. number (mine are 2 and 3). This VOSP mark is also in miniature on the labels. Moreover the VSOP catalogue number is hand-etched in the dead wax.
So, if you don’t have these markings, you have an original. Let me know.
Dear Rudolf, thank you very much for your answer, highly appreciated. My record doesn’t show any markings for VSOP, which made me wonder. Looks like I got extremely lucky?!
Daer ‘MAARTENKOOLS’ if you want ..please give a ‘look’ to my Video-‘collections’ of Ella Fitzgerald, just in case there concerts of your interest.
Thanks, Ciao fabio Italy,, Roma-
ELLA FITZGERALD..+..vaughan.+.reeves.+.mc.rae.-+ lou rawls..+.betty carter.+.sheila jordan .+.ernestine anderson..+.The..-THREE-..Ladyes…of..Blues.- Mel Tormè..- James Brown..Ray Charles.. Nancy Wilson..
MATTYMAN: I tried out the GIXEN sniper on two occasions:
the first time the record sold for an amount higher than my maximum, which is normal. The second time it sold for half my maximum. Comment by Gixen: either buyer ended sale early or “our bid came too late”. In the sales history there was no early ending. The record was just sold. So it is the second case.
So now my question. Are the Gixen guys reliable. What is your experience? On how many succesful bids approximately? Thanks in anticipation.
Hello jazz collectors I’m looking for some one with a large jazz record collection that includes rare pressings etc to take part in a book I am working on about record collectors. If your interested in more info email me at Radvinylthebook@gmail.com
Tom: start buying the Album Price guide of Goldmine. Not for the prices, but to know about grading, label variations etc.
Look how experienced sellers operate (Euclid, JazzRecordCenter and a certain BobDjukic) and create your style.
Good luck.
bought a original “contours” -Sam Rivers, Grrreat album, but does somebody know when they stopped with the “P” in the run-out.. i thought there were some 4200 series BN’s that have a ear..?
Maarten, for those who don’t have the originals, this series looks to be the answer. For those buying originals only, life becomes more difficult. How to distinguish the real from the facsimile?
Per Fred Cohen’s book, BN 4200-4226 have P / earmarks except: 4203,4204,4206,4209,4212,4213,4215,4217,4218,4219,4222. 4226 is last one with P / earmark.
maartenkools,
I see two problems with that reissue series, they list 1577 as “flat-edge” and 4195 as “deep-groove” which were features that were gone by the time these were released. Maybe it was just a typo as they seem pretty intense on the details.
I have curtis fuller bone and bari blue note 1572. The cover is taped along two edges and has a blue stamp that says for promotion. How much does that affect the value?
Greetings all. First visit here and am looking for advice on how to research some Jazz albums I’ve recently come across. I’ve been collecting vinyl for 20+ years but have mostly collected 60’s & 70’s classic rock. I came across several Jazz albums from the 50’s and was hoping for suggestions on how to research and authenticate them. Any suggestions are most appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Hi MD. Looks like you very lucky. I would be curious about these records.
Anyways. It depends on the recordlabels. If you may have some Blue Note records, a good investment would be the book by Fred Cohen,how to identify first pressings. For labels like Prestige, Riverside an so on, you may be lucky to look for some labelographys on the internet.
Otherwise, there are a lot of experts here, that will gladly help. Maybe you should tell us, what record labels you have and we can delve deeper!?
Thanks for the advice and links. I was going to attach a list but I don’t see an attachment option. I’ll check out the links and see what I can find. I never realized how little I knew about Jazz.
One of the better compilations of teh Fifties is on Clef, “The Metronome All Stars”, featuring Mingus and Art Blakey. For those who want this gem, the can buy it now for US $ 91,177.00. A bargain I would say. (Item number 120823216522).
Hi, Rudolf. Yes I saw that one as well. I assumed it was a mistake. Love that record — it’s not a compilation, FYI, they brought them all into the studio. The side with Ella and Joe Williams and Basie is great, with a classic version of April in Paris.
Al: you are right, the word compilation was ill chosen. They brought in top names to fill one LP side, starring Thad Jones, Charles Mingus, Konitz, Chaloff, to name a few. The title played: Billy’s Bounce (duration some 20 minutes). Issued only on Clef or Verve under the name Metronome All Stars. Recorded in1956. Can be had at a very low price. Good value for money. I am giving these details for community members unaware of the existence of this record.
Last night I was listening to Art Blakey’s Ugetsu. I have an original(pretty sure at least) Black Label Stereo. It sounds great, and I mean the stereo aspect sounds really good for early 60s stereo recording. Take into account that, I don’t have both a Mono and Stereo of any riversides to compare(at least on vinyl, I have stereo SACD of The sounds of Sonny and Mono original but that’s it). I think that Riverside did the best job of Stereo in the early 60’s and am looking for others opinions on this. I’ve been more CONSISTENTLY impressed with their Stereo recordings than others of the Mid and small labels. RVG did some nice Stereo’s but also some duds where it has a bad seperation and whole in the middle effect. To be clear, I’m talking about the quality of the stereo aspect only. Not fidelity, mic techniques, pressing quality. What do y’all think?
i found a 10 inch LP of Else Bianchi live in Basel, dated from 1962. I am told that this is one of the phantoms of european jazz because there were just produced about 100 copies. Has anybody an idea what this could be worth?
thanks
BigBear: thank you for raising this question re RW. I have always wondered what the meaning of this stamp is. I think it is only on Prestige and New Jazz albums.
Jason: I am as puzzled as you are
by the absence of any comment on the passing away of Bob Brookmeyer. Are our friends too much focused on Blue Note artists?
To all: I have a Blue Note album 4029 which has two side 1 labels. The music though is correct, corresponding to side 1 and side 2. Also the hand-etched catalogue numbers are in order, showing sides A and B. Would this misprint diminish the value of the album or to the contrary?
I adored Brookmeyer, as a player and composer. One of the areas I enjoyed Brookmeyer the most was in the Gerry Mulligan big band. As I understand, he functioned as the musical director and composed many of the songs. Many of this work can be picked up for relatively cheap. I enjoy the Thad Jones/Mel Lewis big Band alot as well. It seems to be more heralded than the Mulligan big band, but I prefer the Mulligan big band. I actually really enjoy “Spirit Music” as well. A sad passing for the jazz world.
“Charlie Christian,Diz and Monk at Mintons”? Jerry Newman and his portable recorder? Boris Rose? Danny Serro? Mere amateurs. This is one ‘boot’ by the “Prez” that even THEY could not have imagined.
Come to think of it,that’s probably a good thing…
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-CENT-CD-Jam-Sessions-Pres-Blows-Bill-Clinton-/220884229755?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item336db9de7b
Hi, I am new to this site but would like a reader opinion. I have the only copy of Ella Fitzgerald live in Melbourne Australia on video (It’s a funny story of how I came about it)… and I wanted to know how to go about having it valued. Does it have value? Also, should I put it on DVD?
Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated.
Rudolf once again to the rescue!
Thanks a million-
Dan
Maybe this is best suited here:
I grabbed a copy of JR Monterose’s “In Action” today and I was wondering how I could tell, if it’s a first pressing or the later VSOP-Reissue.
Does anyone have any clue, how they differ?
Any help is appreciated!
Dear Miss Sara, I wopuld like to have (‘few’)more informactions of the Live Video concert of Ella Fitzgerald ..”in your hands”.
-1-names of the sidemen(Musicians),,-2- year of the concert,,-3-‘color,,or ‘b.&.w’,,-4- how long is the concert,,-5- the ‘general’ quality of the video.. Please, if you can answer, write me
..here—> f.baglioni@yhaoo.it
Many thanks(Grazie Mille) for all your ‘help’.. Ciao fabio,, Italy, Roma.
hi Sarah, normaly video’s or dvd’s aren;t collectors items, and not worth that much money, unless it is like a private concert recording.
I do like to know what year the concert was , side musicians, playlist etc..
Katharsis: I have only two VSOP albums (the two of Elmo Hope ex Celebrity and Beacon). Both have a discrete V.S.O.P. stamp on the rear of the sleeve saying Replica edition Phonorecords and a VSOP-.. number (mine are 2 and 3). This VOSP mark is also in miniature on the labels. Moreover the VSOP catalogue number is hand-etched in the dead wax.
So, if you don’t have these markings, you have an original. Let me know.
Dear Rudolf, thank you very much for your answer, highly appreciated. My record doesn’t show any markings for VSOP, which made me wonder. Looks like I got extremely lucky?!
that is good news Katharsis, congratulations!
Thank you! I’m still sceptic 😉
If you’re in the NYC area this weekend,there’s a rare appearance by west-coast based Freddie Redd(!) at Smalls. Catch him if you can!
http://beta.asoundstrategy.com/smalls/index.cfm
Daer ‘MAARTENKOOLS’ if you want ..please give a ‘look’ to my Video-‘collections’ of Ella Fitzgerald, just in case there concerts of your interest.
Thanks, Ciao fabio Italy,, Roma-
—> e-mails f.baglioni@yahoo.it
ELLA FITZGERALD..+..vaughan.+.reeves.+.mc.rae.-+ lou rawls..+.betty carter.+.sheila jordan .+.ernestine anderson..+.The..-THREE-..Ladyes…of..Blues.- Mel Tormè..- James Brown..Ray Charles.. Nancy Wilson..
-29.2 Bruxelles..palais.des.beaux-arts..+.Peterson.p.+.Brown.cb.+.JO JONES.drs.+.herb ellis.cht.+.roy eldridge.tr..-raro- .50-60s’ bw t.42-
57.4.Viareggio.+.trio+lou stain.p.+.ray brown.cb.+.ed thigpen.drs -1961 bw t.15-
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-215.2 Vienna(Wien – austria) trio.+.jimmy rowles.p.+.bobby durham.dr-1981t.34-
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-278.6 Stoccolma..trio.+.Duke Ellington-Orchestra.+.jimmy jones.p.+.gus johnson.dr-1965 bw t.16-
-284.2..Chicago..u.s.a..tv.+.COUNT BASIE big babd.+..roy eldridge.tr.+.zoots sims.sax. -1979 t.17-
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-544.2-Berlino live Stage-TRIO-.+.tee Carson.p.+.ketty betts.cb.+…FREDDY WAITS.drs..-1968.bw ..t. 44’ …-
-641-Helsinki (Finlandia)-TRIO.+.tommy Flanagan.p+ketter betts.cb.+.gus Johnson.dr-1965-t.33 –b.w.-
-734.2-Swiss –(Svizzera)- live at Mezzorico,, -TRIO-.+.tommy Flanagan.p.+.keter betts.cb.+.bobby durham.dr..-1977,, t.68’..
-753.1-Japan,, live ‘’J..A..T..P’’-paul smith.p-ketter betts.cb-bobby durhamdr..+..-gurst-JOE PASS.cht // ..jam ..’JATP’ ALL – STARS.+.clark terry.+.al grey.+.zoot sims.+.eddie ‘lkj’ davis.+.OSCAR PETERSON.p.+.n.h.o.petersen,,martin drew.dr,,..louie bellson.dr..-1983-t.116’..
-754.2-Japan,, tv-studio’’Show’’.+..big band,,.+.ROY ELDRIGE.tr,, ..’short+cut)-1964- t.11’.b.w..
MATTYMAN: I tried out the GIXEN sniper on two occasions:
the first time the record sold for an amount higher than my maximum, which is normal. The second time it sold for half my maximum. Comment by Gixen: either buyer ended sale early or “our bid came too late”. In the sales history there was no early ending. The record was just sold. So it is the second case.
So now my question. Are the Gixen guys reliable. What is your experience? On how many succesful bids approximately? Thanks in anticipation.
To Rudolf: Why don’t you just use auctionsniper.com? I’ve been using it for years and never ever had any problem. Regards. soga
thank you soga57. I will try them out.
What about Bidnip? I’ve used many times for a while and it always worked great for me.
This is too great not to share
A record playing bicycle!
keep watching Monk when Charlie rouse starts playing… GENIUS!! ….. ! What a band, what a song, what a perfomance…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKvVKsJ8sk4
I gave Gixen sniper two other chances on non-essential items. It worked out fine.
The news reports the passing of a great drummer-Paul Motian.
Yes, that’s sad news. He was an original drummer from the ground up.
Hi
im off to New York In January, any clues on where I could do some diggin for some Jazz Records.
If the wife lets me!!!!
Many Thanks
Hello jazz collectors I’m looking for some one with a large jazz record collection that includes rare pressings etc to take part in a book I am working on about record collectors. If your interested in more info email me at
Radvinylthebook@gmail.com
Thanks
Ross
Tom: start buying the Album Price guide of Goldmine. Not for the prices, but to know about grading, label variations etc.
Look how experienced sellers operate (Euclid, JazzRecordCenter and a certain BobDjukic) and create your style.
Good luck.
for hose of you who are intrested in beautifull BN reisue series, i didn’t knew about this series yet, looks beautifull.. These are the most exact replicas i have ever seen.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLUE-NOTE-Premium-Vinyl-Reissue-Series-5LP-SET-MASTER-TAPES-JAPAN-/250935904455?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&hash=item3a6cf208c7#ht_5723wt_1165
bought a original “contours” -Sam Rivers, Grrreat album, but does somebody know when they stopped with the “P” in the run-out.. i thought there were some 4200 series BN’s that have a ear..?
Maarten, for those who don’t have the originals, this series looks to be the answer. For those buying originals only, life becomes more difficult. How to distinguish the real from the facsimile?
Per Fred Cohen’s book, BN 4200-4226 have P / earmarks except: 4203,4204,4206,4209,4212,4213,4215,4217,4218,4219,4222. 4226 is last one with P / earmark.
thanks BigBear
maartenkools,
I see two problems with that reissue series, they list 1577 as “flat-edge” and 4195 as “deep-groove” which were features that were gone by the time these were released. Maybe it was just a typo as they seem pretty intense on the details.
As beautiful as these reissues look, they are a very useful to hand on a plate for cheating (Sorry if my english may be wrong!).
I have curtis fuller bone and bari blue note 1572. The cover is taped along two edges and has a blue stamp that says for promotion. How much does that affect the value?
Adamski: I had good luck for jazz records at A-1 Records, Academy Records, and Good Records in the East Village
Greetings all. First visit here and am looking for advice on how to research some Jazz albums I’ve recently come across. I’ve been collecting vinyl for 20+ years but have mostly collected 60’s & 70’s classic rock. I came across several Jazz albums from the 50’s and was hoping for suggestions on how to research and authenticate them. Any suggestions are most appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Hi MD. Looks like you very lucky. I would be curious about these records.
Anyways. It depends on the recordlabels. If you may have some Blue Note records, a good investment would be the book by Fred Cohen,how to identify first pressings. For labels like Prestige, Riverside an so on, you may be lucky to look for some labelographys on the internet.
Otherwise, there are a lot of experts here, that will gladly help. Maybe you should tell us, what record labels you have and we can delve deeper!?
Hi MD,
you can look at these websites for dates,some labels and some covers.
1.-
http://33rev.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58&Itemid=68
2.- http://www.birkajazz.com/archive/Candid.htm
3.-http://www.jazzdiscography.com/Labels/index.html
4.-http://www.jazzdisco.org/
thanks
rockies
Thanks for the advice and links. I was going to attach a list but I don’t see an attachment option. I’ll check out the links and see what I can find. I never realized how little I knew about Jazz.
Thanks again for the help.
Update the post with the correct image url. Click the image to see the URL.
Henry thanks for the Heads Up, a nice bit of diggin is in order.
Regards
Adamski
From the good folks at NPR’s “Fresh Air” program-a rebroadcast of a 2006 interview with Paul Motian. He talks about his years with Bill Evans,why he left,which of their albums was his favorite,playing with Monk and much more. Great listening!
http://www.npr.org/2011/12/02/143002755/fresh-air-remembers-jazz-drummer-paul-motian
One of the better compilations of teh Fifties is on Clef, “The Metronome All Stars”, featuring Mingus and Art Blakey. For those who want this gem, the can buy it now for US $ 91,177.00. A bargain I would say. (Item number 120823216522).
Hi, Rudolf. Yes I saw that one as well. I assumed it was a mistake. Love that record — it’s not a compilation, FYI, they brought them all into the studio. The side with Ella and Joe Williams and Basie is great, with a classic version of April in Paris.
Al: you are right, the word compilation was ill chosen. They brought in top names to fill one LP side, starring Thad Jones, Charles Mingus, Konitz, Chaloff, to name a few. The title played: Billy’s Bounce (duration some 20 minutes). Issued only on Clef or Verve under the name Metronome All Stars. Recorded in1956. Can be had at a very low price. Good value for money. I am giving these details for community members unaware of the existence of this record.
Last night I was listening to Art Blakey’s Ugetsu. I have an original(pretty sure at least) Black Label Stereo. It sounds great, and I mean the stereo aspect sounds really good for early 60s stereo recording. Take into account that, I don’t have both a Mono and Stereo of any riversides to compare(at least on vinyl, I have stereo SACD of The sounds of Sonny and Mono original but that’s it). I think that Riverside did the best job of Stereo in the early 60’s and am looking for others opinions on this. I’ve been more CONSISTENTLY impressed with their Stereo recordings than others of the Mid and small labels. RVG did some nice Stereo’s but also some duds where it has a bad seperation and whole in the middle effect. To be clear, I’m talking about the quality of the stereo aspect only. Not fidelity, mic techniques, pressing quality. What do y’all think?
Bob Brookmeyer passed away on the 15th of Dec. at the age of 81.
He left a rich legacy to be enjoyed by all of us.
Hi There
i found a 10 inch LP of Else Bianchi live in Basel, dated from 1962. I am told that this is one of the phantoms of european jazz because there were just produced about 100 copies. Has anybody an idea what this could be worth?
thanks
I thought for certain someone might have commented by now on the recent passing of Bob Brookmeyer.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/19/arts/music/bob-brookmeyer-jazz-musician-and-educator-dies-at-81.html
Does anyone know what the red stamp RW means on the back of some LPs? I thought I saw the answer someplace on JC but can’t find it. Thanks in advance!
BigBear: thank you for raising this question re RW. I have always wondered what the meaning of this stamp is. I think it is only on Prestige and New Jazz albums.
Jason: I am as puzzled as you are
by the absence of any comment on the passing away of Bob Brookmeyer. Are our friends too much focused on Blue Note artists?
To all: I have a Blue Note album 4029 which has two side 1 labels. The music though is correct, corresponding to side 1 and side 2. Also the hand-etched catalogue numbers are in order, showing sides A and B. Would this misprint diminish the value of the album or to the contrary?
I adored Brookmeyer, as a player and composer. One of the areas I enjoyed Brookmeyer the most was in the Gerry Mulligan big band. As I understand, he functioned as the musical director and composed many of the songs. Many of this work can be picked up for relatively cheap. I enjoy the Thad Jones/Mel Lewis big Band alot as well. It seems to be more heralded than the Mulligan big band, but I prefer the Mulligan big band. I actually really enjoy “Spirit Music” as well. A sad passing for the jazz world.