Comments on: Collecting Riverside: Some Helpful Hints

By: Rudolf

Rudolf — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:35:56 +0000

There are some more early sessions (1955-56) recorded by RvG, 12-209 “The Unique Thelonious Monk” being one of them.

By: Aaron

Aaron — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 19:47:43 +0000

I just picked up a second press (large blue label, no Inc.) of RLP 12-201 Thelonious Monk Plays Duke Ellington and on the back it states it was recorded by Rudy Van Gelder. Did he record any other Riverside titles? Also my copy doesn’t have RVG in the deadwax, is it on any Riverside LP?

By: michael p

michael p — Tue, 06 Dec 2011 01:29:59 +0000

Inc does not appear on Riverside labels until after 12-329, 331-333 and 339 are the exceptions. These correspond with the 1100 stereo releases, originals in this series should have no Inc on the label. There are probably exceptions. Most early Riversides came with rice paper sleeves

By: Aaron

Aaron — Sun, 04 Dec 2011 19:50:47 +0000

One easy way to differentiate between the blue labels is the bottom line of text on the first large and second small label is “Bill Grauer Productions” while the third and last blue label added Inc. at the end for “Bill Grauer Productions Inc”.

By: John Lindsay

John Lindsay — Fri, 07 Jan 2011 07:27:08 +0000

This is a really useful thread. Can anyone tell me what are the features of a first pressing of Thelonious Monk’s Misterioso
RLP 12-279 ?
Was it on a small label first?
Was the original cover laminated?
I’ve seen some being sold as “original” with and without the red Riverside Contemporary Series banner at the top right. Which is first?
What kind of inner sleeve would a 1st pressing have come with?
And finally was there a UK or European pressing within a year or so of the USA release?
Thank you to anyone who might be able to share this knowledge.

By: Aaron

Aaron — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 21:20:28 +0000

I’ve been assembling a labelography page on my website and recently added Riverside (scroll to bottom of page):
http://33rev.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58&Itemid=68

By: Fred M

Fred M — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:21:37 +0000

Al:

This is a great page. Very helpful for me as I try to navigate the ebay waters in looking for original pressings of some of my favorite LPs.

By: Rudolf A. Flinterman

Rudolf A. Flinterman — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 14:50:15 +0000

Thanks for the info Michel,
I have Pepper Adams 10 to 5 with laminated cover, 553 W adress and small label. I had a stereo version too, but that one had one track missing which is only on the mono version. So I sold the stereo.
The same phenomenon with Jazz Contrasts, K.D. 239. The stereo version has also one track missing. I still have both.

By: Michel

Michel — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 07:23:10 +0000

The 258 has originally a arge label. So your a) is a second.Many collectors believe the small label is the original !

your b) is a third, with a large label, second type, non laminated cover and recent adress.

For the a) Riverside still used the classic laminated cover,and 553 adress but for the b) its a newer one, not laminated and 235 adress. Narrow spine maybe.

Regarding the 264, the small label / lamination cover exists (same fot Pepper Adams 10 to 5) But the original label is the old style large. I have a NM large blue of this one… but i’m still looking for a fine original cover..

By: Rudolf A. Flinterman

Rudolf A. Flinterman — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 19:59:01 +0000

Michel, sorry to bother you, but I have one more question.
I have two 258 copies as follows:
a) laminated cover, 553 W. adress, small DG blue label;
b) non-laminated cover, 235 W. adress, big DG blue label, without US and GB patent numbers in dead wax.
Could b) be a 2nd re-issue (after the first small label re-issue)?
I have 264 like a): lamination, 553 W., small blue DG label, so this combination exists. But the b) combination seams weird.