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		<title>Getting &#8220;Hipp&#8221; To Some Nice Jazz Vinyl</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Okay, back to the business of watching rare jazz vinyl on eBay. I&#8217;ve been less diligent about watching (and posting) because 1: I&#8217;ve been spending [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://jazzcollector.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/jutta.jpg"><img fetchpriority="high" decoding="async" class="alignright size-full wp-image-5717" alt="jutta" src="http://jazzcollector.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/jutta.jpg" width="302" height="299" srcset="https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/jutta.jpg 302w, https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/jutta-150x150.jpg 150w, https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/jutta-300x297.jpg 300w" sizes="(max-width: 302px) 100vw, 302px" /></a>Okay, back to the business of watching rare jazz vinyl on eBay. I&#8217;ve been less diligent about watching (and posting) because 1: I&#8217;ve been spending a lot of time listening to the records from the collection I just purchased in Baltimore and 2: Having purchased this major collection and melding it with my collection, the last thing I am looking to do now is purchase any more jazz records. But I realize I have an obligation to our loyal readers here at Jazz Collector, so back to eBay it is. Lots of great items on the board right now, including:</p>
<p><a title="Jutta" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/390723307360?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&amp;_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649" target="_blank"><strong>Jutta Hipp at the Hickory House, Volume 1, Blue Note 1515</strong></a>. This is an original Lexington Avenue pressing listed in VG++ condition for the record and VG+ for the cover. It is currently in the $450 range with more than two days left on the auction. The same seller is selling <a title="Jutta" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/380794226948?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&amp;_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649" target="_blank"><strong>Jutta Hipp at the Hickory House Volume 2, Blue Note 1516</strong></a>. This is a not-quite-original. It looks like the original vinyl, in VG++ condition, with a later cover, which looks to be in nice condition, but without a listed grade. Bidding on this one is already more than $200. One more from the same seller:</p>
<p><span id="more-5716"></span><a title="Blue Train" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/390724979183?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&amp;_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649" target="_blank"><strong>John Coltrane, Blue Train, Blue Note 1577</strong></a>. This looks to be a quasi-original pressing. It has the West 63rd addresses on both labels, but I think the hard-core collectors view the original pressing as having one side with the New York 23 address. This one is in VG+ condition for both the record and the cover. The price is in the $475 range with more than four days to go.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another seller with some nice items on eBay now, including: <a title="Thad Jones" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/261351034854?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&amp;_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649" target="_blank"><strong>Thad Jones, After Hours, Prestige 7118.</strong> </a>The record isVG+ or VG++ condition, just visually graded. Sellers do much better, I think, when they actually listen to the records and offer a play grade. The cover on this is listed in VG+ condition. Starting price is $300 and so far there are no bidders with less than one day left in the auction.</p>
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		<title>Breaking a Few Records</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Oct 2013 13:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t quite get in all of the jazz vinyl auctions I wanted to post from yesterday, so here are a few more. John Coltrane, Blue [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://jazzcollector.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Blue-Train.jpg"><img decoding="async" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-5198" alt="Blue Train" src="http://jazzcollector.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Blue-Train-300x228.jpg" width="300" height="228" srcset="https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Blue-Train-300x228.jpg 300w, https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Blue-Train.jpg 392w" sizes="(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px" /></a>Didn&#8217;t quite get in all of the jazz vinyl auctions I wanted to post from yesterday, so here are a few more.</p>
<p><a title="John Coltrane" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Blue-Note-1577-John-Coltrane-Lee-Morgan-Curtis-Fuller-Blue-Train-NM-EX-RVG-/151144290533?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&amp;ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&amp;nma=true&amp;si=bg9FyPL%252B16NFGpWEdGuQRCG5iZo%253D&amp;orig_cvip=true&amp;rt=nc" target="_blank"><strong>John Coltrane, Blue Train, Blue Note 1577</strong></a>. This was an original pressing. The seller didn&#8217;t give it a grade, but from the description is sounded like the vinyl was probably M-. The cover was probably VG++, based on the pictures. It sold for a whopping $3,000. That&#8217;s far and away the highest price we&#8217;ve ever seen for Blue Train in the <a title="Jazz Collector Price Guide" href="http://jazzcollector.com/price-guides/" target="_blank"><strong>Jazz Collector Price Guide</strong></a>.</p>
<p><a title="Monk" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/THELONIOUS-MONK-SONNY-ROLLINS-ULTRA-RARE56-PRESTIGE-MONO-LP-w-ANDY-WARHOL-COVER-/141088711123?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&amp;ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&amp;nma=true&amp;si=bg9FyPL%252B16NFGpWEdGuQRCG5iZo%253D&amp;orig_cvip=true&amp;rt=nc" target="_blank"><strong>Thelonious Monk, Monk, With Sonny Rollins and Frank Foster, Prestige 7053</strong></a>. This was a New Jersey pressing, not an original. The cover also had the New Jersey address. This one has the Andy Warhol cover, which gives it some additional prestige, if you&#8217;ll pardon the play on words. The record was in VG++ condition and the cover looked to be VG++ as well. This one was listed by bobjdukic, and he has somehow figured a way to get prices that no one else can match. For this second pressing, he was able to get a top bid of $955.21.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s another Warhol cover from the same seller:</p>
<p><span id="more-5197"></span><a title="Johnny Griffin" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHNNY-GRIFFIN-w-SONNY-CLARK-CONGREGATION-ORIG58-BLUE-NOTE-LP-ANDY-WARHOL-COVER-/350898391899?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&amp;ssPageName=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT&amp;nma=true&amp;si=bg9FyPL%252B16NFGpWEdGuQRCG5iZo%253D&amp;orig_cvip=true&amp;rt=nc" target="_blank"><strong>Johnny Griffin, The Congregation, Blue Note 1580</strong></a>. This looks to be an original pressing. The record is listed in G+ or VG- condition, which means there is a lot of surface noise, acknowledged by the seller. The cover is listed in VG++ condition, although based on the pictures if I was selling it I would grade it no higher than VG+. This one sold for $475.99. A lot, but more reasonable than the Monk, wouldn&#8217;t you say?</p>
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		<title>Updating the $1,000 Jazz Vinyl Bin</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 22:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for taking so long between posts. I had a ton of work on my real job, but no excuses. I promise to do better. [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://jazzcollector.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Cliff-Jordan.jpg"><img decoding="async" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-4375" title="Cliff Jordan" src="http://jazzcollector.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Cliff-Jordan-280x300.jpg" alt="" width="280" height="300" srcset="https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Cliff-Jordan-280x300.jpg 280w, https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Cliff-Jordan.jpg 524w" sizes="(max-width: 280px) 100vw, 280px" /></a>Sorry for taking so long between posts. I had a ton of work on my real job, but no excuses. I promise to do better. So, let&#8217;s catch up on some of the records we missed while we were off in the real world.</p>
<p>I had my eye on this, but the price was too high even if I had been paying attention: <strong><a title="Cliff Craft" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;_trksid=p4340.l2557&amp;hash=item4166e00e45&amp;item=280898833989&amp;nma=true&amp;pt=Music_on_Vinyl&amp;rt=nc&amp;si=Z92Zkm5WWAE5hZOX7CySlKEEChI%253D&amp;orig_cvip=true&amp;rt=nc#ht_3028wt_834" target="_blank">Cliff Jordan, Cliff Craft, Blue Note 1582</a></strong>. This was an original West 63rd Street pressing in VG+ condition for both the record and the cover. I was looking at this with a couple of days to go and the price was relatively low. I thought, given the condition, perhaps it might be worth a snipe. It wound up selling for $1,125. However, I do have hope for acquiring this record in the future. I&#8217;ve got an idea I may be getting a copy for my birthday one of these days. How did I finagle that? I&#8217;ll tell you in another post this week.</p>
<p><strong><a title="Blue Train" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHN-COLTRANE-BLUE-TRAIN-ORIG-W-63RD-DG-MINT-/261040391032?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&amp;hash=item3cc7384378#ht_500wt_1108" target="_blank">John Coltrane, Blue Train, Blue Note 1577</a></strong>. This was an original pressing that looked to be in M- condition for both the record and the cover. It sold for $1,602.77.</p>
<p>Whilst we&#8217;re perusing the $1,000 bin, here are a few more:</p>
<p><span id="more-4374"></span><strong><a title="Marty Paich" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHN-COLTRANE-BLUE-TRAIN-ORIG-W-63RD-DG-MINT-/261040391032?pt=Music_on_Vinyl&amp;hash=item3cc7384378#ht_500wt_1108" target="_blank">Marty Paich, The Broadway Bit, Warner Brothers 1296.</a></strong> This was an original pressing in M- condition for both the record and the cover. It sold for $1,311. Wow. First time we&#8217;ve seen this one in the $1,000 bin on the <strong><a title="Jazz Collector Price Guide" href="http://jazzcollector.com/price-guides/" target="_blank">Jazz Collector Price Guide</a></strong>.</p>
<p><strong><a title="Jutta Hipp" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;_trksid=p4340.l2557&amp;hash=item46049e334c&amp;item=300725187404&amp;nma=true&amp;pt=Music_on_Vinyl&amp;rt=nc&amp;si=Z92Zkm5WWAE5hZOX7CySlKEEChI%253D&amp;orig_cvip=true&amp;rt=nc#ht_900wt_1068" target="_blank">Jutta Hipp With Zoot Sims, Blue Note 1530</a></strong>. This was an original Lexington Avenue pressing. The record looked to be M- and the cover was probably VG+. The price was $1,913.</p>
<p>One more:<strong><a title="Cliff Jordan" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;_trksid=p4340.l2557&amp;hash=item2571cc61b6&amp;item=160823009718&amp;nma=true&amp;pt=Music_on_Vinyl&amp;rt=nc&amp;si=Z92Zkm5WWAE5hZOX7CySlKEEChI%253D&amp;orig_cvip=true&amp;rt=nc#ht_900wt_1068" target="_blank"> Cliff Jordan, Blue Note 1565</a></strong>. This seemed to be an original pressing, lacking the pictures to substantiate, however. It&#8217;s a risk. The record was listed as M- and the cover was probably VG+. The price was $1,110. For that money, I&#8217;d at least want a full picture of the cover and a picture of the label. Not too much to ask, is it?</p>
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		<title>Guest Column: Collecting Blue Note CDs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 14:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Mattyman has promised us a guest column about collecting Blue Note jazz CDs and here it is: Collecting Blue Note Albums on Compact Disc Guest [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://jazzcollector.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Blue-Note-CDs.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignright size-medium wp-image-3350" title="Blue Note CDs" src="http://jazzcollector.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Blue-Note-CDs-239x300.jpg" alt="" width="239" height="300" srcset="https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Blue-Note-CDs-239x300.jpg 239w, https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Blue-Note-CDs.jpg 798w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 239px) 100vw, 239px" /></a>Mattyman has promised us a guest column about collecting Blue Note jazz CDs and here it is:</p>
<p><strong>Collecting Blue Note Albums on Compact Disc<br />
</strong><strong>Guest Column by Mattyman, The Netherlands</strong></p>
<p>First of all a big thanks to Al for giving me the opportunity to tell y&#8217;all something about collecting Blue Note releases on CD, which I&#8217;ve been avidly doing since the early nineties. Since I couldn&#8217;t think of a &#8216;logical line&#8217; in my column, I decided to randomly describe a few of the things that I pay attention to before I buy a CD and to make things more clear, I have once again created a photo page that y&#8217;all can use while you read the story. The few photos that I included in this story are only meant to literally jazz up the look of the column. I will continuously refer to that photo page as well, so maybe the best way to do this is to open the page in a new window.<br />
Here we go, folks!<br />
The first jazz album that I ever bought was John Coltrane &#8211; Blue Train, in 1992. There was a reason why I bought it. My favorite Dutch writer (and known jazz collector, drummer and DJ), Jules Deelder, has written many long and short stories about his deep love for jazz, how he first heard it as a little boy and how mesmerized he was by the voice and trumpet playing of, as he&#8217;d find out later, Chet Baker. His endless hunts for vinyl are the most fun to read, since I had been digging like that myself for seventies funk. I wanted to know more about jazz, &#8217;cause if Jules Deelder dug so frantically, it had to be good. I honestly had not listened to one jazz album in my entire life before 1992. So I went to my favorite record store and grabbed Blue Train, simply because</p>
<p><span id="more-3349"></span>it was the only title I knew and I liked the cover. I got home and played it, many times for days on end. A whole new world of music opened up for me and I bought more. Once I finally shed my first tears while listening to “Lover Man” by Charlie Parker, I became a jazz addict. I bought and still buy material from all the known labels, but first and foremost I buy Blue Note. This is also the moment for the readers to open the photo page! <strong><a title="Blue Note CDs" href="https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipP5Eai0I_zEEt1RqGeiyO6iHRE2fXchTI0ARP_bJZkur7ngi96x58q1d_rRLXlIVw?key=bFZfVGhJU05PdW1PUHluTGtKYTBZYmhxTkk5LXZB" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer">Click here for the link. </a></strong>When flipping through the photos, my suggestion would be to do it as slide show, which offers a full screen, high quality experience. After clicking the link, look slightly to the left upper corner of the page that opens and click “slide show”, you can then go through the pics with the left and right arrows on your keyboard. It&#8217;s very handy to do that while reading along.</p>
<p>There are a lot of things that can make a re-release on CD collectible for me, but I&#8217;ll just describe a few things in order to keep the length of the column acceptable. The first Blue Train I bought on CD was released in 1985, nothing fancy about it. But then, in 1997, it was the fortieth anniversary of Blue Train and, presto: The Ultimate Blue Train was released. It contained two bonus tracks, an interactive part with audio and video and an intriguing story about the alternate version of “Blue Train” and its piano solo. A close-up of these notes is in the photo page. In 2003, Blue Train was re-issued for the RVG series, so of course I had to add that one to my collection as well. (This pressing contained “copy control” data, which made playback on a computer or in a car a pain in the neck and EMI later abandoned it.) And of course, with every new re-issue it was said that the audio quality improved, which was also a reason to buy the latest re-release of many other titles. The only thing that bothered me a bit was the apparently careless use of whatever Blue Train cover they had laying around; when you look at the photos you see what I mean.</p>
<p>Besides the fact that on many forums I found a lot of hot fired discussions about the good or bad audio quality of certain re-issues, I focused on what I saw printed on the back of some of the Blue Note re-releases. This is best explained by looking at the reissues of, for instance, Miles Davis&#8217; Birth Of The Cool, his Volume 1 and 2 on Blue Note and Lou Donaldson&#8217;s Lush Life. The first two re-releases that I have of Birth Of The Cool sound really awful  (even the second reissue remastered version by Mark Levinson), but that changed when the RVG edition was released. It&#8217;s funny how honest record companies get for reissues, &#8217;cause now all of a sudden we read in the booklet that all previous reissues of Birth Of The Cool had been made from a regular LP master, while Rudy van Gelder returned to the absolute first-generation masters of each individual track. The end result is absolutely stunning and the RVG edition of Birth Of The Cool sounds just fabulous. When I later on bought Miles Davis&#8217; Vol.1 and 2 on Blue Note, I found some startling information on the back of Vol.2: “The master tapes on all but the previous unissued selections are lost and we have spent considerable time repairing and improving the sound of the tapes with which we were left”&#8230; This basically means that the masters of Kelo, Enigma, Ray&#8217;s Idea, Tempus Fugit, CTA and I Waited For You, are gone. This is confirmed on the RVG edition of Miles Davis&#8217; Vol. 2, where it states that only tracks 7 to 11 were mastered from original tapes. I found that stuff incredibly intriguing. What happened to those tapes? Where had they gone? Who had them? At the same time it turned out that the very first Vol.1 and 2 reissues on CD still carried the “a product of Liberty records” remark on the front cover! And there was more lost tape drama: When Lou Donaldson&#8217;s Lush Life (aka Sweet Slumber, Japan) saw it&#8217;s RVG reissue, it bluntly said on the cover that the master tape was lost and that the CD had been remastered from a test pressing! Again: intriguing stuff. A lost master: How can that happen? Anyway, when you follow my photo page, you will see the great photos in the Lush Life booklet, the track listing for the Ammons and Lewis reissue, with the info about the mastering from &#8216;somewhat&#8217; damaged discs and a missing track. When we reach the Bud Powells Vol.1 and 2 reissues we read that all tracks on Vol.1 were remastered from lacquer discs.  The only thing I wonder here is if that was already the case when the 12” LPs of Bud Powell Vol. 1 and 2 were released back then. Apparently in 1949 and 1951, Bud&#8217;s material was never recorded on tape but directly on lacquers, but then again: I know now that many, many recordings were made that way in those days. Directly on a lacquer, and it had to be done in one take. Imagine how fragile these discs must have become by now. I don&#8217;t know why stuff like that intrigues me. Maybe it&#8217;s the thought of adventurous research trips through vaults and the knowledge that only a few people have access to these vaults, only to find out later that some master has mysteriously gone lost.</p>
<p>And while we continue flipping through my photo page, I show you previously or partially unissued sessions. There are many, but I will show a few that are truly awesome. Comin&#8217; On by Dizzy Reece. Just look at the personnel. Truly a super CD and collectible, in my opinion. Then look at Cool Blues by Jimmy Smith: Only four cuts have been issued before. The entire live set is just fabulous and again, look at that personnel! Last but not least we see Tina Brooks&#8217; sessions that had been shelved for decades before they saw their reissue on CD. Top-notch material with extensive booklets, photos and great stories from Michael Cuscuna. It&#8217;s information like this that should tickle every jazz lover&#8217;s curiosity, especially since we&#8217;re talking superb jazz!</p>
<p>After the Tina Brooks photos we move on to various kinds and some of the joys of certain reissues. Check out the Freddie Redd Shades Of Redd, the Connoisseur edition followed by the RVG edition. Bonus tracks and extra photos by Francis Wolff. Then we see a few Japanese reissues in the RVG, series which pose questions, since those RVG remasters were released and remastered much earlier than the US reissues, they always lack bonus tracks and, in my honest opinion, sound inferior to the US versions. Could it be that the Japanese have first-generation copies of the original masters and more or less &#8216;RVG&#8217; those tapes themselves? It makes sense in a way, &#8217;cause why is it that they never reissue with bonus cuts? The Japanese Bennie Green reissues on the other hand sound just fabulous and at the same time I&#8217;ve never seen a domestic reissue of the Bennie Greens to begin with. The folded up &#8216;back covers&#8217; in some of those Japanese reissues are of course always a joy. Then we move on to &#8216;crappy&#8217; reissue work. Kenny Dorham&#8217;s initial reissue of &#8216;Round About Midnight looked ugly and missed the usual Blue Note look and feel, which thankfully was restored for the RVG edition. We also had the clumsy cover use of the first domestic reissue of the Jazz Messengers. The Japanese and the later RVG edition follow the original front covers. But the first domestic reissue simply used the red cover for both volumes. Again I show you that the Japanese reissues always omit the bonus cuts. Just look at the track listings, also at the one from Paul Chambers. I know there are Japanese “Volume 3” reissues, but that is not always the case. Many Japanese fans probably buy import US pressings to get to the bonus cuts.</p>
<p>Last but not least I show you a release that uses the extended playing time of the CD very well. Look at the Japanese pressing of Kenny Burrell&#8217;s Introducing. They release the album as an exact replica of the LP from back then. The domestic reissue, however, puts all three first Kenny Burrell sessions, from which certain tracks were only released in Japan, on one double CD!  The pictures say enough. The other thing that happens, is that sometimes the early reissues from the nineties put the tracks of original sessions in the exact order in which they were recorded, which I prefer. This happened with Hank Mobley&#8217;s No Room For Squares, The Turnaround and Straight No Filter. But then, when the RVG reissues appear, they scramble all the tracks again as they were listed on the original vinyls back in the days. Just follow the photos; again it&#8217;s all a reason for me to buy the reissues and consider them collectable. The last few photos show a promo copy of Dizzy Reece&#8217;s Blues In Trinity and the beautiful RVG reissue cover of Mobley&#8217;s Another Workout next to the incredibly ugly Another Workout cover from the nineties reissue. The very last snapshots show you the rest of my Blue Note CDs.</p>
<p>I hope you all enjoyed my column. As said I just wanted to share a few things with you that make collecting CDs fun for me.  &#8212; Mattyman</p>
<p><a href="http://jazzcollector.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Blue-Note-CDs2.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-large wp-image-3351" title="Blue Note CDs2" src="http://jazzcollector.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Blue-Note-CDs2-1024x858.jpg" alt="" width="1024" height="858" srcset="https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Blue-Note-CDs2-1024x858.jpg 1024w, https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Blue-Note-CDs2-300x251.jpg 300w, https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Blue-Note-CDs2.jpg 1193w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 1024px) 100vw, 1024px" /></a><a href="http://jazzcollector.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Blue-Note-CDs-3.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-3352" title="Blue Note CDs 3" src="http://jazzcollector.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Blue-Note-CDs-3.jpg" alt="" width="953" height="850" srcset="https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Blue-Note-CDs-3.jpg 953w, https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/Blue-Note-CDs-3-300x267.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 953px) 100vw, 953px" /></a></p>The post <a href="https://jazzcollector.com/blue-note/guest-column-collecting-blue-note-cds/">Guest Column: Collecting Blue Note CDs</a> first appeared on <a href="https://jazzcollector.com">jazzcollector.com</a>.]]></content:encoded>
					
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a great one from our friend Don-Lucky on Blue Train: Good afternoon Al, I am not sure if your were watching this one already [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://jazzcollector.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/John-Coltrane-Jazz-Vinyl.jpg"><img loading="lazy" decoding="async" class="alignright size-full wp-image-3107" title="John Coltrane Jazz Vinyl" src="http://jazzcollector.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/John-Coltrane-Jazz-Vinyl.jpg" alt="" width="257" height="242" srcset="https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/John-Coltrane-Jazz-Vinyl.jpg 321w, https://jazzcollector.b-cdn.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/John-Coltrane-Jazz-Vinyl-300x282.jpg 300w" sizes="auto, (max-width: 257px) 100vw, 257px" /></a>Here&#8217;s a great one from our friend Don-Lucky on Blue Train:</p>
<p>Good afternoon Al,</p>
<p>I am not sure if your were watching this one already or not, but it sold quite for a record high today&#8230;</p>
<p>John Coltrane BLUE Train Blue Note 1577 w.63rd 23 NM!<br />
Item Number: 400138742036<br />
Selling Price: $1838.04</p>
<p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=400138742036&amp;ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:CA:1123">http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=400138742036&amp;ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBUAA:CA:1123</a></p>
<p>I was also chatting with Larry Cohn about this one earlier in the week and here is what he had to <span style="color: #000000;">say on this auction:<br />
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<em><span style="color: #000000;"><span style="color: #000000;"> </span><span style="color: #000000;">&#8220;</span><span style="color: #000000;">BLP 1577 was issued in what we commonly consider the first pressing with the old (leftover in stock) 63<sup>rd</sup> NEW YORK 23 label on one or the other sides.    The 63<sup>rd</sup> NYC both sides pressings, which commonly circulate, overlap with the first pressings, but are not probably “old” in that they would have been in use, covering several pressings, from 1957 through much of 1959.  That is why I consider them 2<sup>nd</sup> pressings by default.</span></span></em></p>
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<p><em><span style="color: #000000;">I did a calculation once based on frequency of occurrence (I have seen hundreds of these records over the years) and determined that RANDOMLY there would have existed in the neighborhood of 5 copies total of 1577 with the old 63<sup>rd</sup> NEW YORK 23 label on BOTH SIDES.   I have never had evidence of any of these actually existing in a collection, but one could easily be buried away somewhere right now, or any that once existed could have been discarded over the years, having been worn out/damaged via play.  So the one side version is considered the first pressing, by default.   The reason I calculated such a low number is simple: we are dealing here with using up  some obsolete older labels that remained in stock.  Same thing happened famously with 1568.   Oddly enough my low calculation is based on rarity of Side 2 bearing NY 23, which is the description of the eBay item!  So I would have to slightly up my calculation –but it would still at this point point to say a dozen or so NY 23 both sides probably pressed –way low  in any event.  You have to remember that at break points in BN’s history, the split label varieties were all random –with such numbers as 4069 (63<sup>rd</sup> vs NEW YORK USA) or 4245 (NEW YORK USA vs. A DIVISION OF LIBERTY) as common examples of split being common rather than an aberration due to timing.&#8221;</span></em></p>
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