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		<title>Jazz Vinyl Fraud: No News, More Comments</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 14:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an update on some of the stuff going on in the Jazz Collector world. Nothing new from eBay on the Nautiluso Jazz Vinyl Fraud. [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an update on some of the stuff going on in the Jazz Collector world.</p>
<p>Nothing new from eBay on the Nautiluso Jazz Vinyl Fraud. I had sent a follow-up note asking specifically what eBay was doing about paying off victims of the scam and I haven&#8217;t gotten a response. I&#8217;ll follow up sometime today or tomorrow. I&#8217;m sure they&#8217;re sick of hearing from me. Also, there&#8217;s no new feedback on the profile page for Nautiluso. Frankly, I&#8217;m surprised eBay still has the page up and available.</p>
<p>Some of the Jazz Collector readers have commented offline about the fraud, presumably because they wanted to be anonymous on the site. I will share excerpts here:</p>
<p><span id="more-2407"></span>&#8220;With all the viewers on these auctions, why is it that no one has commented one way or the other, that the pictures must have been snatched from other websites (popsike) or older eBay listings?  I say this as presumably he never had these records and was planning this caper for some time.  Did anyone not recognize their own pictures? I have seen this issue addressed in other auctions and the seller rightly acknowledges that these were stock or someone else’s pictures. Just a thought.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I hope ebay does the right thing. it would look pretty awful if they didn&#8217;t, though they make you jump thru hoops to get any satisfaction. i bought a bogus chanel #5 a few years back. It smelled like piss, and to get back the 50 bucks I had to go to a perfumery and have them state in writing that it wasn&#8217;t the real stuff. Then a hundred more phonecalls &#8211; At least I learned a lesson-&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Hi Al&#8230;Same thing, only worse, happened a couple of years ago from a seller in Italy with a collection too good to be true, with  NO PICTURES and only feedback from selling trivial items.  Thanks,   Chuck in Michigan&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Hey Al, I wasn&#8217;t buying what they were selling (so to speak). They also listed some heavy Classical pieces as well. It smelled like yesterdays socks!&#8221;</p>
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<div>Also, I still haven&#8217;t gotten the Ella CD. I know I could just buy it online, but I&#8217;m determined to walk into a store and walk out with it. I&#8217;ll try a couple more places on Long Island this week, then try Manhattan on Saturday. I will get that CD, eventually. Also, it&#8217;s been a couple of weeks since we&#8217;ve run a give-away contest, so I will pore through my items and find something to put up later today. Please stay tuned.</div>The post <a href="https://jazzcollector.com/jazz-vinyl-fraud/jazz-vinyl-fraud-no-news-more-comments/">Jazz Vinyl Fraud: No News, More Comments</a> first appeared on <a href="https://jazzcollector.com">jazzcollector.com</a>.]]></content:encoded>
					
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		<title>eBay Files Criminal Complaint in Nautiluso Case</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 14:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>Well, our persistence paid off. We finally got a response from eBay media relations today on the Nautiluso case and it&#8217;s a doozy: The company [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, our persistence paid off. We finally got a response from eBay media relations today on the Nautiluso case and it&#8217;s a doozy: The company says it has filed a criminal complaint with the Berlin Police. Here&#8217;s the full text of the reply:</p>
<p>&#8220;I have an short update for you and your readers. I appreciate your patience and I&#8217;m sure you understand that an international investigation takes time. You can tell your readers that eBay is continuing to investigate this matter and has filed a criminal complaint with the Berlin Police. This is all the detail I can provide at this time.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all we have for now, but it&#8217;s really fascinating and gives us hope that we&#8217;ll eventually get to the bottom of what actually happened. Also, I went through all of our</p>
<p><span id="more-2396"></span>previous Nautiluso coverage earlier today and put everything under a new category called &#8220;Jazz Vinyl Fraud.&#8221; If you click it under &#8220;Categories&#8221; on the right side of the page you can see all of the articles at once &#8212; 17 of them so far, with dozens of reader comments. Enjoy.</p>The post <a href="https://jazzcollector.com/jazz-vinyl-fraud/ebay-files-criminal-complaint-in-nautiluso-case/">eBay Files Criminal Complaint in Nautiluso Case</a> first appeared on <a href="https://jazzcollector.com">jazzcollector.com</a>.]]></content:encoded>
					
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		<title>Putting a Name on the Jazz Vinyl Fraud</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Al]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 14:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[<p>As Rudolf pointed out in a comment yesterday, Nautiluso, perpetrator of the Jazz Vinyl Fraud of 2009, is no longer a registered user on eBay, [...]</p>
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										<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Rudolf pointed out in a comment yesterday, Nautiluso, perpetrator of the<strong><a title="Jazz Vinyl Fraud" href="http://jazzcollector.com/jazz-vinyl/buyers-file-30000-in-fraud-claims-vs-nautiluso/" target="_blank"> Jazz Vinyl Fraud of 2009,</a></strong> is no longer a registered user on eBay, so the public information about him is slowly starting to disappear. There was a point at which he had a <strong>My W</strong><strong>orld</strong> page, but that is gone. You can still see on eBay that he had been a member since June 8, 2003 &#8212;<strong><a title="Jazz vinyl Fraud" href="http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&amp;userid=nautiluso&amp;ftab=AllFeedback&amp;myworld=true" target="_blank"> in Germany.</a></strong> Personally, I&#8217;m not sure he was ever based in Brazil: It&#8217;s likely he had an accomplice mail from a Brazil mailing address because he believed it would provide a safe haven. The thing about this guy is, for several years he was probably a legitimate seller and probably used his real name in communicating with customers. I will tell you the name he used: <strong>Thomas Lamprecht.</strong> If you had any dealings with him, please let us know. What&#8217;s also starting to disappear from eBay are</p>
<p><span id="more-2378"></span><strong><span style="font-weight: normal;">the original listings of the records that were part of the fraud. I clicked on to several of them and what comes up is a message that tells you that the listing has been removed. Normally eBay keeps listings up for 90 days after the auction closes. In the case of these records, at least the ones I was watching, they have all been taken down. You can try clicking this one as an example:</span><a title="Jazz Vinyl Fraud" href="http://cgi.ebay.com/AD-LIB-6601-JACKIE-McLEAN-New-Tradition-1st-Nm_W0QQitemZ300353637081QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item45ee78cad9&amp;_trksid=p3911.c0.m14#ht_1491wt_1067" target="_blank"> </a></strong><strong><a title="Jazz Vinyl Fraud" href="http://cgi.ebay.com/AD-LIB-6601-JACKIE-McLEAN-New-Tradition-1st-Nm_W0QQitemZ300353637081QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMusic_on_Vinyl?hash=item45ee78cad9&amp;_trksid=p3911.c0.m14#ht_1491wt_1067" target="_blank">Jackie McLean, The New Tradition, Ad Lib 6601. </a><span style="font-weight: normal;"> Fortunately at Jazz Collector we were watching a large number of the auctions and kept them on the record. One of our readers who suspected a fraud early on actually added up all of the Nautiluso records and the prices for which they sold. It came to a total of $132,000 &#8212; but he didn&#8217;t save the document, so there&#8217;s no full record of everything. Based on what we saw, I&#8217;m comfortable that the $132,000 figure is an accurate assessment. Perhaps if eBay ever calls back and acknowledges what happened we&#8217;ll find out for sure. But we shouldn&#8217;t hold our breath, right?</span></strong></p>The post <a href="https://jazzcollector.com/news/putting-a-name-on-the-jazz-vinyl-fraud/">Putting a Name on the Jazz Vinyl Fraud</a> first appeared on <a href="https://jazzcollector.com">jazzcollector.com</a>.]]></content:encoded>
					
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