Comments on: Fairly Common LPs, Uncommon Prices

By: dottorjazz

dottorjazz — Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:54:37 +0000

«There is only one thing in the world worse than being talked about, and that is not being talked about».
from one of my idols, Oscar Wilde.
we’re talking about Bob, the insane seller.
from a serious insane collector’s point of view, we can laugh at many descriptions and hyperboles, as we continue to read here.
what I can’t stand is the frequent misleading about the originality of a given record.
the systematic attempt to cheat on reissues or second or later pressings (see “very early pressing for a 70’s reissue of a 50’s record) makes me fooled.
wanna add that sometimes records are really good in details and truly original.
sometimes only.
I won’t argue on prices, as I believe anyone can throw his money as he likes.
among the many adjectives we’ve seen about him, I think that Tony’s is the most reliable.

By: Tony

Tony — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 15:39:37 +0000

I think bob is a fraud (dishonest descriptions) and there is some money laundering going on or something. Just doesn’t add up otherwise. How come the market sets a price and then he doubles it on nearly every item? You can do that once, or twice, but every time? Fishy indeed.

By: ceedee

ceedee — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 14:17:17 +0000

Michel,re:heart attack-thanks for the warning! I stopped reading after 3 pages or so,as my skin began to turn a strange shade of GREEN. I had to turn myself away from the screen before this affliction would recede. Perhaps his webpages should come with an advisory of sorts? (Translation:”WAAAH! WAAAH!I want bids like that,too!”)

By: Katharsis

Katharsis — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:39:29 +0000

I agree with maarten and ceedee, it makes a point, if you do not happen to live e.g. in the metropolitan NYC area. It’s pretty much not possible to get your hands on that much rare records in Europe, so you may view the whole scene from a different viewpoint. I would be much more into bidding, if I wouldn’t have to pay expensive shipping costs all the time.
So bobdjukic could offer free shipping…at least 😉

By: Michel

Michel — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 09:40:06 +0000

http://www.ebay.com/csc/bobdjukic/m.html?_ipg=&_from=&_nkw=&LH_Complete=1&_armrs=1&_sop=3

Beware of heart attack

By: Michel

Michel — Thu, 29 Mar 2012 04:59:14 +0000

@Bill…hum…Shills would be an option. I have wondered that many times. But I’ve never seen listing cancellation on his auctions.

By: bill

bill — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 21:21:40 +0000

I think one of the ways he gets his prices is by using shills to inflate the bidding. If they happen to win, he cancels the transaction and starts again after a discreet period of time.

By: DaveS

DaveS — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 20:50:02 +0000

Given I would never buy from him, he is good for the rest for us. Makes a item that I own (e.g., thousands of jazz records) all the more valuable.

If I were still buying off eBay (which I can no longer afford to do), it would not be good for me. The real reason I don’t buy off eBay any longer is that sellers have learned more about how to list and there are no longer any hidden gems out there worth taking a chance on.

By: ceedee

ceedee — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:00:16 +0000

Hmm…interesting views,all. To me,bobdj is pure ‘American hucksterism’ at it’s best(worse?) The graphics are an interesting mix of ad copy greatest hits,”NO pinholes,NO clipped corners,NO promo markings,NO…”(repetition)and over-the-top adjectives “INSANELY rare” (make it BIG!),with colors that engage the eye even as the written word tells you that this lp is one… you… MUST… own. He’s the engaging,seemingly knowledgeable salesman that always has you leaving the store with the suit you never knew you needed.
As for the crazy prices for commonly seen lps,I agree with maarten-commonly seen WHERE? Where you live changes your perspective(natch),and most rare lps find their way overseas,do they not? Besides,when I can get $50-100 for,say,10 lps I don’t care to listen to,it makes it a lot easier for me to then spend $100 or so on something I’d like to find-like a mono copy of Sam River A NEW CONCEPTION on Blue Note. Perhaps,thereby,starting the cycle all over again.

By: ADAMSKI

ADAMSKI — Wed, 28 Mar 2012 09:43:36 +0000

I have woken into another universe today…..
Getz/Gilberto…..
WOW. he must be laughing himself to the bank.
Who is bidding on this for this sort of money?
This one just don’t add up.

They guy is a genius if he gets bids like this on records like that!