One Sells, The Other Doesn’t

John Jenkins copyBack to watching jazz vinyl on eBay. Here are some of the records that we missed in the past few days, starting with John Jenkins and Kenny Burrell, Blue Note 1573. This was an original pressing with the West 63rd Street address on both labels. The record was listed in VG+ condition and the cover was as well. It sold for $865.55, which is getting up there for a VG+ record. At the same time there was this copy of the same record. This one also looked to be an original pressing and seemed to be in better condition than the other one. The seller listed it as Ex+, which typically translates to around VG++. Yet, this one only received a top bid of $224.50 and failed to reach the seller’s reserve price. I’m sure I’m missing something in the listings, but I can’t figure it out. And it can’t be because one of our readers doesn’t like the seller for whatever reason. If we had that kind of clout, we’d start our own eBay for Jazz Collectors only.

Here’s one for the $1,000 bin:

Jutta Hipp with Zoot Sims, Blue Note 1530. This was an original Lexington Avenue pressing that looked to be in about VG condition for the record and cover, maybe slightly higher for the record based on the description, but I’d be careful if I was paying that kind of money for any record. What kind of money? How about $1,304.50, which is getting up there for a VG record.

This seller had some nice Eric Dolphy records, including: Eric Dolphy at the Five Spot, Volume 1, New Jazz 8260. This looked to be an original pressing with the purple label and deep grooves. The record was listed in VG++ condition and the cover was listed as VG+. It sold for $409. Also, Eric Dolphy, Out There, New Jazz 8252. This was also an original pressing with the purple labels and deep grooves. It was listed in M- condition for the record and VG+ for the cover. It sold for $400.55.

 

15 comments

  • About the differences in price for the Jenkins/Burrell: the only reason I can think of, Al, is that the other seller of the Jenkins/Burrell, has more ‘convincing’ photographs.

    Madame Mono only shows the label of side 2, while the other seller has both labels online and he took the photos of front and back cover from a slight distance, which gives a good overall impression of what the record looks like ‘in the flesh’.

    Photographs ‘do’ it for me and I appreciate seeing both labels and not just one; we all know how sensitive labels, deep grooves and sides can be when it comes to Blue Note. That *may* have lead to a lower price.

  • If you look at the first line on the “ex” one, it looks like Madame Mono pulled the listing. The last bid was on 2/5 and the listing ended on 2/8, so my guess is that the listing was pulled early for some reason.

  • The Jenkins auction by Madame Mono was ended early. Per info at the top of the closed listing, “This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing.”

  • “This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing.” Ah yes … this is code for (1) I don’t like the trend in the bidding, so I’m bailing out early, (2) I’ve arranged a Buy It Now to a bidder who contacted me with a satisfactory price, or (3) I’ve decided to sell it off-eBay to another buyer. IMO, rarely is there an error in the listing that prompts an early cancellation.

  • I am astonished at the apparent recent uptick in auction prices.
    I placed what I thought were healthy bids with the German seller on 6 of the choicest titles, but lost. Maybe for the best as the seller’s feedback raise some suspicion. Live to fight another day …

  • I thought some of that German seller’s grading looked suspect.

  • agreed, pureanalogsound seems to be flogging some flogged Blue Notes…

  • I’m amazed at the ups and downs of an album like Lee Morgan’s The Sidewinder. Recently there have been a few non deep groove copies going for almost $300. Perhaps people don’t care about deep groove as much as they used to when identify a true first pressing?

  • The Jenkins title has been relisted by Madame Mono

  • I mean, if people go to the line on a UA mono 70s reissue, I guess people will pay through the nose for anything.

  • “GST Says: I’m amazed at the ups and downs of an album like Lee Morgan’s The Sidewinder. Recently there have been a few non deep groove copies going for almost $300. Perhaps people don’t care about deep groove as much as they used to when identify a true first pressing?”

    I’ve always been under the impression that The Sidewinder, being a 1964 release, would NOT have been pressed with Deep Groove. Any copy of this LP with DG on one or both sides is likely to be a later pressing. First pressings for post-1960 releases = no Deep Groove.

    I might be wrong though! 🙂

  • Cohen lists Sidewinder first as having deep grooves – sadly, my copy has none

  • I didn’t bid on Madame Mono’s record since I thought the description was suspect. The vinyl is graded as e/e+, but the text says that there are occasional needle digs that cause occasional tics. For me e/e+ records don’t have needle digs.

  • i was going to say everything mattyman already said. haha.

    also, carolinasoul drives me crazy. never bought from them, and no bad blood or anything personal, but they tend to list TONS of records in VG- or worse condition, which as a seller they should know are pretty unenjoyable to listen to. when sellers list tons of VG- copies of easy-to-find records, i am suspicious.

    but what else are they to do, i suppose. perhaps my problem is not with the seller, but with the fact that i salivate at some potential great deals, only to read the listing and see it is not in good condition. haha.

    there, self-examination and closure all in the process of typing a comment.

    i’m weird today, sorry.

  • The seller must’ve realized at one point that even torched hard bop originals sell for decent prices online. I remember when I worked in a record store I’d put out G- Blue Notes for a buck a piece and they were snapped up. Dudes (mostly dudes) just didn’t care. If they’re obliterated, why sell them for more than a couple bucks?

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