Giant Steps, Black Label, No DG?
Jan 29, 2010 Questions
Quick question from a reader: A black label pressing of John Coltrane Giant Steps, Atlantic 1311, with no deep groove. Black label, mono, no DG. If it’s not an original pressing, what is it? I’m not asking this as a quiz: I’m asking to find the answer.
Tags: Atlantic Records, John Coltrane
January 30th, 2010 at 12:20 pm
especially in Germany there are many facsimile re-issues of Atlantic albums. Maybe one of those.
Sometimes ther adress on the sleeve gives a clue.
January 30th, 2010 at 12:50 pm
…Thanks for the help guys ! I will give you more details about the LP once it arrives. (I am starting to hope it gets lost in the mail !)
January 30th, 2010 at 3:55 pm
Hello from Spain. I have one copy
with blak label without deep groove. This is one of the last copys of the original first pressing.
January 31st, 2010 at 10:29 am
Joaquim: that is interesting. What is the adress on the back of the sleeve?
January 31st, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Hi Rudolf. ATLANTIC RECORDING CORPORATION 157 WEST 57 STREET NEW YORK 19, NEW YORK
January 31st, 2010 at 4:17 pm
then, I would say, you have an original copy, unless it is a perfect reproduction. One never knows.
February 2nd, 2010 at 2:08 pm
I have both a deep groove and a non deep groove pressing of this with black label. which came first I don’t know. I like the sound of the non deep groove version better though they both sound similar. Both are far superior to the 2nd bullseye pressing and later ones. I wasn’t particularly fond of this lp til I got my hands on a first pressing. Its great!
February 5th, 2010 at 9:38 pm
Jack,
Do both the deep groove and non-deep groove copies you have share the same deadwax etchings?
November 22nd, 2011 at 10:10 am
They are both first pressings.They were just pressed at different plants.One plant still used the old machines with the DG, and another used a newer press with the non DG.
The non DG is more rare and better quality then the DG press.You will see about 20-1 DG to Non DG.
November 22nd, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Chris, that is very interesting and essential information, thank you. Have you any further info on Atlantic, until what catalogue number the black DG label first issue, resp. green stereo label, ditto for bull’s eye etc.
November 23rd, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Rudolf,
One problem with going by the catalog number for label designs is that albums weren’t always released sequentially. For example the first stereo pressing of 1311 (Giant Steps) was the “bullseye” label while the first stereo pressing of 1325 (Pyramid) was on the green label, both monos of course being on the black label.